Headlining removal

4.2 V8 40v biturbo - 450 bhp
4.2 V8 40v biturbo - 480 bhp (plus)
ChrisA
4th Gear
Posts: 764
Joined: Thu May 07, 2020 11:28 am
Location: Langstone, nr. Portsmouth

Headlining removal

Post by ChrisA » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:53 pm

So today I started on removing the headlining. I used the Total Tecknik video to help. It was worth every penny and I managed to complete the job with nothing broken.

https://www.totaltechnik.com/model.php?id=1203

Unfortunately I’m not the first person to remove some of the trim and there are a few clips missing but hopefully they shouldn’t be too hard to replace.

Anyway I’ve a few questions regarding some parts that I found...

Firstly does anyone have any idea what this was? There are no Stickers on it giving away anything. The part was located behind the front cab lighting panel and spliced into the drivers cab light. I also found some cable running to the rear, but had been snipped at both ends and another line going behind the dash.
6CA24C7D-4519-4E19-96E7-486A1170A73A.jpeg
Also when I removed the lining I exposed 3 pieces of car glued to the roof. Surely they’re not OE!? I can’t imagine what they were for other than a piss poor attempt at sound deadening.
912EDA90-84F0-4AE7-8B27-0ACF7B0C61E5.jpeg

User avatar
Shoppinit
Cruising
Posts: 19823
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:24 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:12 pm

Probably a tracker, no?
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."

ChrisA
4th Gear
Posts: 764
Joined: Thu May 07, 2020 11:28 am
Location: Langstone, nr. Portsmouth

Re: Headlining removal

Post by ChrisA » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:13 pm

Shoppinit wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:12 pm
Probably a tracker, no?
I’ve really no idea. I thought maybe some kind of base unit for camera as it seemed to look like it was going towards the stereo.

Any thoughts about the card stuck to the roof?

User avatar
Shoppinit
Cruising
Posts: 19823
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:24 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:25 pm

Maybe a bodge to prevent an annoying rattle? Doesn't look OE, but manufacturers sometimes do some unholy stuff to get out of a corner.

or could have been done at any point since. Likely when the tracker was installed. If that's what it is.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."

ChrisA
4th Gear
Posts: 764
Joined: Thu May 07, 2020 11:28 am
Location: Langstone, nr. Portsmouth

Re: Headlining removal

Post by ChrisA » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:10 pm

Just spoken with a guy who’s broken over 20 C5 RS6 and he said OEM. How crap is that. I’ll be replacing with some proper sound deadening.

steve2003rs6
Top Gear
Posts: 2420
Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:43 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by steve2003rs6 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:42 am

Nice one Chris. Will look good when it’s done.
I’ve got a few saggy bits. But that’s me not the car lol.

User avatar
Shoppinit
Cruising
Posts: 19823
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:24 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:53 am

How are you going about fixing the headlining?
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."

Mɐʇʇ
Cruising
Posts: 2682
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:30 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:01 am

@Chris - when I did my MG TF roof (hardtop, muppets) I did the following:

1. Scrubbed the biscuit with a stiff brush and soap and water to remove debris
2. Using a slightly watered down PVA solution, painted the whole surface of the biscuit to create a good surface to glue too
3. Used spray on contact adhesive from screwfix to attach it.
4. On mine it was new material - so was important to pre-stretch it slightly and then work from the centre outwards to avoid ridges. RS will no doubt require finessing to, but probably in a different way.

It has worked well. Might be trickier if you're only re-gluing the arse section though.

Looking forward to seeing how you get on since I need to do mine too.
"not a professional engineer, mechanic and mechanist"

User avatar
dhali
4th Gear
Posts: 867
Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:44 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by dhali » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:35 pm

There's a good video on YouTube on fixing headlining on an A4 avant . He does what was mentioned above bar the pva part .

Mɐʇʇ
Cruising
Posts: 2682
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:30 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:42 pm

This was the DIY I followed, inc recommending PVA. http://mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/DIY/in ... lining.htm
"not a professional engineer, mechanic and mechanist"

ChrisA
4th Gear
Posts: 764
Joined: Thu May 07, 2020 11:28 am
Location: Langstone, nr. Portsmouth

Re: Headlining removal

Post by ChrisA » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:34 pm

It’s coming along nicely but very VERY slowly. However this is of my own doing as I’d rather take my time and know that I couldn’t do any better.

Firstly the whole of my roof lining was sagging.
C0510607-7787-40AC-8E07-8D6E571110E4.jpeg
I then took a stiff brush to the foam that remained on the board and Alcantara. This is a messy job and best completed in small areas at a time. Remember this foam is sticky and you don’t want to get it on the Alcantara as it’ll be a bitch to get off.
D1063793-1BAB-4242-A693-8B6F3BEC04C9.jpeg
A362A305-F755-4D66-AE58-E41985F08348.jpeg
3D3E3009-812F-4369-9B3C-FC21C3EE857D.jpeg
Like I said this is a long job. You need to keep cleaning until you hit that wall and want to stop. Keep cleaning! This kind of job is all in the prep. By now your thinking that will do. KEEP CLEANING. You need all the spots of old foam gone or it may show through as lumps when you stick it back do. Now you’re think about burning the car and it’s only a roof lining, who the hell looks at the lining anyway! KEEP CLEANING This is going to look great when you’re done! Now you’re thinking the wife might be right and you should just sell the <beep> car! 🤬 You can stop now. 😍
C8FAC8D4-0C0C-472D-86C3-65AB21BC2F24.jpeg
8777B5F8-515D-4F81-A877-31036C19CE1D.jpeg
What’s left behind should be a slightly tacky surface but effectively spotless.

Now I wanted to keep the same plush finish as standard and by gluing the Alcantara direct to the board wasn’t going to achieve this. I visited hobby craft to see what they had but couldn’t find anything appropriate. I then thought to visit a local carpet Shop. They had some 10mm underlining, this is significantly thicker than the original foam (at around 3mm) but I thought I’d give it a go.

Using some no nonsense liquid glue I’ve stuck the lining to the face only and will trim when the glue sets.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense- ... 1ltr/34758
76E4496C-EBC3-4297-B506-2B9571B9D2C6.jpeg
That’s as far as I’ve got.

User avatar
Shoppinit
Cruising
Posts: 19823
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:24 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:40 pm

10mm sounds like a lot. I'll be curious to see if that causes issues.

I think IKEA do something that might be suitable that goes under their laminate flooring.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."

User avatar
Shoppinit
Cruising
Posts: 19823
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:24 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:44 pm

Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."

User avatar
Mr Footlong
Cruising
Posts: 4320
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:07 pm
Location: Stalking Kate Beckinsale

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Mr Footlong » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:14 pm

Following. The rear alcantara started detaching over winter and is on the list with everything else :biggrin3: .

I was going to go with an expert to do it, unless somebody local to me that has done it before and fancies doing it again for cash ;)
Current:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm

Gone:
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats, uprated fuel pumps, race plugs, 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

Mɐʇʇ
Cruising
Posts: 2682
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:30 pm

Re: Headlining removal

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:42 pm

Alcantara is just a brand name for fake suede.
There are other products exactly as good as Alcantara without the brand name - the guys use them for the yacht interiors all the time.

10mm. Gulp. There's loads of sellers on ebay that do upholstery foams.
There's even 3mm neoprene - I wonder if that might work well.

Interesting they've all dropped at roughly the same time.
"not a professional engineer, mechanic and mechanist"

Post Reply

Return to “RS6 / RS6 plus (C5 Typ 4B) 2002-2004”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: lewis.philcox, Marcin, srichards, V!per and 99 guests