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This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by Gregstv » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:18 am

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Audi 01E Paddle Shift Conversion
Revolutionary H pattern gearbox to paddle shifter kit

Sequential only paddle shifters are history!

MME Motorsport H-Paddle Shifter Kit contains everything you need to run a fully pneumatic paddle shifter on your 01E gearbox. Kits starting from 4500 EUR + VAT

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What’s the benefit of our paddle shifting system over manual shifting?
You can convert your 01E H gearbox to paddle shifting which was previously only available to (expensive) sequential gearboxes
No chassis modification needed. Bolts on directly to the original gearbox.
It’s just faster. At least one time faster than any shifting with hand
You can concentrate purely on the road
You can safely shift in fast long corners (with both hands on the steering wheel)
We protect your engine by not allowing the driver to over-rev the engine with incorrect downshift
We reduce gear wear by performing clean, fast & reliable shifts
You can up-shift with full throttle without the clutch

You can down-shift without the clutch*
You can pre-select any gear at full throttle on a straight line (say in 6th gear) and when you start to brake, gearbox will automatically down-shift down to your pre-selected gear at perfect engine rpm. The harder you brake, the faster it will down-shift
Because you don't need the clutch, you can easily use left foot for braking to stabilize the car and gain speed over the corners
You can use launch mode and as long as you're at full throttle, the gearbox will shift automatically at perfect rpm so you get perfect starts every time
If you already have engine control unit capable of shifting sequential gearboxes you can let your ECU do the shifting. System will just receive the shift command and perform the shifting sequence.
* We offer optional clutch kit which means our system will also automatically press & release clutch when down and/or up shift (even on synchronized gearboxes). See kit content.
Kit content
1) Gear Control Unit (GCU)
Sophisticated control unit that uses closed-loop sensors to control any paddle shifting system.

Windows PC Software & Powerful datalogging included.

1.5m wiring available at extra 100 EUR + VAT


More details about GCU


2) Actuators
Two high-speed actuators with integrated valves that can shift any cable driven gearbox
One universal actuator and valve for throttle blip
Connectors, fittings & 2M wiring
Optional clutch actuator assembly (+1040 EUR + VAT)
Direct gearbox mount available (no cables)



Gearbox actuators


3) Steering Wheel Paddles
Single push style (for left and right side) or WRC style (push/pull)
Magentically assisted
Can be mounted on flat or non-flat steering wheel (with different plates)
Optional spiral cord 1 m (extra 50 EUR + VAT)
More details about the universal steering wheel paddles or wrc style paddle


WRC paddle
WRC paddle
4) Air Compressor Kit
Powerful constant pressurized air solution:

High performance compressor
Air reservoir
All of the needed accessories

We offer few options to power the air supply unit, starting from the very basic. If you need the best control of the air, we also provide high quality, industrial grade pressure transducer to monitor and log the pressure.


5) Gear Indicator
High brightness LED display
Automatic brightness adjustment
Compact housing


6) After Sale Support
We take every project very seriously. We offer full support over the email & phone, even on-site support if needed. We will do anything in our power to help for the project to be successful.
Please note: Any component can be purchased separately and you can build this system yourself.
Functional Diagram

Download PDF version of this document
Frequently asked questions
Can I use this on Synchromesh gearbox?
Yes. It is possible to use our system if you have hydraulic clutch. What we do is we supply additional actuator and hydraulic actuator that presses and releases the clutch automatically.
What is needed to install this into my car?
- Gear lever must be replaced by the h-paddle shifter assembly. Usually the cables need to be shortened to properly fit. Cables on the actuators side need M6 male thread. We supply these cables at extra cost.
- Air compressor and air reservoir must be mounted and connected to power and gear control unit
- Gear control unit must be wired according to diagram. Basically you need 12V from ignition switch, ground, paddle up/down switches, clutch switch and neutral switch. If your car has a CAN BUS or you need to communicate with a CAN BUS device (like dashboard), you need extra 2 wires, CAN+ and CAN-.
- If your gearbox is synchromesh and you purchased synchro kit, then you need to mount clutch actuator and connect it between the existing clutch line.
- If your ECU support engine unload (ignition cut, <beep>, fuel cut) you need to connect signal wire from gear control unit to your ecu. If it does not, then you need to wire the ignition coil supply into the gear control unit (only if you want full throttle shifting)
- With software installed and car running we recommend a fine tuning on a dyno to test everything in safe and controlled environment.
It takes around 20-40 work hours to install this system in a car.
How fast can this system shift?
Realistically around 80 - 120 ms is possible on a dogbox. With synchronized gearbox (by GCU automatically pressing the clutch), you're looking at around 250 - 350 ms.
What are the dimensions?
Actuator assembly: 286 x 142 x 120 mm.
Compressor: 220 x 100 x 170 mm.
Air bottle (tank): 290 x 120 x 140 mm. 360 x 120 x 140 mm with all accessories included (safety switch, relay, pressure regulator)
Complete kit weighs approx. 10 kg.
What do you need from me before you can start?
You need to measure travel of each cable for each gear. This is the most important step and must be measured very accurately.
Is this system repairable?
Yes. Most of the components can be easily replaced.
Do you ship worldwide?
Yes, we ship worldwide.
Lead time?
Kit will be ready to ship in 1 month.
What are you payment options?
We prefer wire transfer, however, paypal is also possible, but we have to charge extra 5.5% for the paypal fee (paypal takes this, not us).
We also offer USD, UK and AUD based bank accounts.
We require 1000 eur advance and the rest before shipping.
How much does it really cost?
- Base price for a kit is 3500 eur + VAT.
- If you have a synchromesh gearbox and you want our synchro kit, that is extra 1040 EUR + VAT.
- Shifting cables need to be modified. If you want us to do it, that's extra 130 EUR + VAT + your original cables. We make new ones and use only the bowdens and gearbox mountings. We can also build completely new cables according to your drawing for 300 EUR + VAT.
- If you want us to crimp the connector and provide the wiring that is also extra 100 eur + VAT. There are no other costs before purchase.
How can I buy cheaper h-paddle shifter for my car?
You can build your own kit, with your own components. We don't mind. We are happy to offer you only the parts you cant buy/make.
Looking for sequential paddle shifting kit? Check out our paddle shifting kit for sequential gearboxes

Please note: this product is not street legal and can only be used on closed-road. Read the disclaimer here
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MME Motorsport ltd.

Dobračevska 55
4226 Žiri
Slovenia
VAT NO: SI11959797
Phone: +386 41 979-000

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Re: This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:38 am

Oooo!
I’ve got an 01x for the ultima, this would be superb
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Re: This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by Gregstv » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:50 am

I think I will start working towards this for when the auto starts to fail. It would be great to hear from someone who has this setup.

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Re: This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by bilko1 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:00 pm

Can any one lend me 4500 Euro’s? This would be fun in the manual.
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Re: This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by Gregstv » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:51 pm

About the same price as a auto rebuild here in Australia. The receipt I got with the car for the auto rebuild was for $12k aud.

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Re: This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by IchBautAuto » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:55 am

It’s just faster. At least one time faster than any shifting with hand

It's hard to get the 01E to shift really fast in the lower gears, the design and synchro setup isn't sympathetic. The B7 manual gearbox is reputed to be far better in that respect.

It is an interesting read but at $10,000 - $12,000 I'd be wondering about a true sequential gearbox if that capability was really needed. It's a bit like the Fischer Space Pen, spend a few million developing something that you can write with in space.............or use a pencil.
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Re: This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:29 am

Agreed. “If” I did something like this, it’d be for the fun and challenge of doing it. As with most of my projects.

I’m old. I still appreciate proper manual with feel on both the gear stick and the clutch pedal
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Re: This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by Gregstv » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:16 pm

I am looking at knee replacements and a ankle fusion. Full manual won't be a a long turm option. Something like this would be great. The other option is a later model RS.

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Re: This looks interesting for an old bloke like me

Post by IchBautAuto » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:51 am

That does put a kink in the manual concept. I have a +15 clutch in the RS4 and it is noticeably stiffer and you'd need that at min to cope with the HP. Personally I'd still go the auto box and get it sorted with the box tricks and upgraded TC. Just something about having a car true to period.
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