C5 RS6 Avant avus

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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:42 am

I’m no lover of the slammed look but that looks a smidge too high to me. Higher than OE I think.

Any difference in the ride quality?
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Human Joist » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:20 am

Ok I can always drop it 5mm all round. It seems loads better. This is is for now
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If it needs to drop to match standard let me know and I will sort it
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Human Joist » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:52 am

Found this link for ride height. Will measure them tonight to see what I have now

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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:00 pm

Yeah that looks about 10-15mm higher than OE.
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Human Joist » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:05 pm

Shoppinit wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:00 pm
Yeah that looks about 10-15mm higher than OE.
Cheers mate will go 10mm all round tomorrow and see how it looks.

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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Human Joist » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:00 pm

Evening all. Thought I would update this thread. I’ve been back on the forum the last few months doing some jobs on the car. As stated on some other posts my dad got seriously ill not long after I got the car in 2019 as he had been battling cancer for some years and sadly died August 2019.

The car got used off and on for the rest of the summer and then got mothballed in the garage for the rest of the year and in to April this year as my mind was elsewhere. My daily is a b8 A4 diesel

I decided it was time to get some jobs on the car ticked off. I try to be picture heavy as we all enjoy that

The car had both EGT’s throwing faults so after some research I removed the covers. Dug out the silicone and re soldered both of them in Situ which cured both codes. Taking my time with the little delicate joints that must have worked loose and cracked over the years with engine heat
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After that the next job was cambelt and water pump. While doing this I discovered the air con compressor had seized so I replaced that at the same time to finally get the air con working
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Human Joist » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:05 pm

The next job was to sort the ride quality out. When I got the car it had kw v1 and it was like falling down stairs with leg callipers on. Needless to say this had to go. I went with some original drc springs and koni sport shocks. This worked out very well and almost kept a standard ride height but due to the shocks it sits a tiny bit lower which worked out well.
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Human Joist » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:11 pm

Next job was the afterrun pump and knock sensor 3. So car back in to service position again and inlet manifold off. Not a tricky job but time consuming nonetheless. I replaced the knock sensor and subsequently found out this wasn’t the issue but was in fact a crap earth as can be seen which had been repaired by a blind man who just wrapped it with tape to hide it rather than fix it. The new afterun pump failed the same day causing a big water leak. So I had to strip it all apart again as soon as I had test drove it and replace the pump again. It was a dark couple of weeks that this car nearly got the better of me as I had enough of inlet removal and replacement on the car for one month 😂 so went with a pierburg one and thought my troubles were all sorted and I could relax and use the car for the rest of the summer .....

New pierburg pump after fitting
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here is the failed earth. This was very well taped so I missed it on the first strip down
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While this was off I replaced the sometimes faulty pipe work underneath that cause air leaks
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I replaced the maf seals at the same time
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Human Joist » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:19 pm

So I thought I could enjoy the car for the rest of September and October before it’s hibernation.

4 days later i had massive smoke cloud of oil on exhaust engulf the car on the carriageway followed by the engine oil light. Immediately switched the engine off and found myself stranded on the dual carriageway less than a mile from home. Followed by recovery home :thumbsdown:
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The culprit discovery was a failed oil cooler repair by the previous owner which caused all 6 litres to empty out the bottom of the car on the side of the road. The only plus is after wiping it all off I have nicely protected the bottom of the car from any rust issues 😂
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Looks like they replaced the braided hose with some decent high pressure line however went for jubilee clips which weren’t up to the job.

So

I have cut and removed both the repair and the other original worn oil cooler pipes.
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As it stands at the moment that’s as far as I have got. Rather than go for original replacement pipe I have elected to follow Matt’s advice and replace it with some high pressure pipe work and assemble it myself. I have ordered AN10 nylon braided hoses. New unions and adaptors to swap the new an10 line to 22x1.5 thread to the oil cooler. Parts are starting to arrive and I just await the final adaptor from Germany then I can put it back together

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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by IchBautAuto » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:15 am

Great work. I got to do some of that too, just maintenance or repairs that were lacking by past owners despite the low miles. You'll probably find other stuff as time goes on but once done, you can hopefully not need to look back at that for some time. I did find that one Apikol seal secured strongly and the other didn't adhere??? Of course, once you push the MAF down to where it should sit then the seal is actually held in place anyway.
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Human Joist » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:59 am

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Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:15 am
Great work. I got to do some of that too, just maintenance or repairs that were lacking by past owners despite the low miles. You'll probably find other stuff as time goes on but once done, you can hopefully not need to look back at that for some time. I did find that one Apikol seal secured strongly and the other didn't adhere??? Of course, once you push the MAF down to where it should sit then the seal is actually held in place anyway.
Cheers dude. What’s your first name as I feel daft calling you ich 🤣

Yeah I had the same with the apikol seals. So I now have some 70 and 80 mm silicone tubing and am going to have a go at your initial solution for the mafs to see how that works out. I think that along with the apikol seals will be perfect for every day use till a more astute and cad minded member knocks up a group buy in the uk for your final result

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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:44 am

How do you find the ride on the Konis? DRC was ruined on mine when I bought it, so I never had a good comparison. I know I am happy with the Koni ride quality and ride height, in my case combined with the Hotchkis ARBs.
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by IchBautAuto » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:07 am

Human Joist wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:59 am
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Cheers dude. What’s your first name as I feel daft calling you ich 🤣
Yeah I had the same with the apikol seals. So I now have some 70 and 80 mm silicone tubing and am going to have a go at your initial solution for the mafs to see how that works out. I think that along with the apikol seals will be perfect for every day use till a more astute and cad minded member knocks up a group buy in the uk for your final result
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Hi James, it's Tony. I have already sent a copy of the 3Dprint files to Classik who is going to try and print off a set at some stage. Flick me a PM with your email and I'll send you the same files to avoid channel hopping. I used some quality 5mm thick reinforced hose for the trial fit and it was perfect. You can't see them, but they look fine anyway and work a treat. Anything more is really just dressing.

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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by IchBautAuto » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:12 am

Mɐʇʇ wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:44 am
How do you find the ride on the Konis? DRC was ruined on mine when I bought it, so I never had a good comparison. I know I am happy with the Koni ride quality and ride height, in my case combined with the Hotchkis ARBs.
KONI was to be my choice but they weren't readily available so I took the Bilstein B8's and used the original DRC springs. Ride height is standard, ride is actually fantastic and I've had a few long distance trips where they worked perfectly on a variety of roads and at maybe 180 - 190 KPH they were rock solid. No adjustability but I'm very happy with that setup and can recommend it as an alternative for normal RS driving.
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Re: C5 RS6 Avant avus

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:19 am

I think original springs is a good thing. I'm no expert on the finest details of suspension (suck squeeze bang blow is where more of my expertise lies), but I always figure coilovers end up going with much harder springs - that was one reason that guided me towards the Koni setup. Was that your thought process behind the B8's?
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