Key fob problems again

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Key fob problems again

Post by Ben_r1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:13 pm

Seems to be Achilles heel of my particular car but I once again have key fob problems.

When I purchased the car neither key would operate the central locking, eventually I had a new key purchased and programmed from Audi.

Now my car has been sat in the garage for 6 months with a completely flat battery, I’ve just got round to fitting a new battery this weekend and surprise neither of the keys work again. I’ve tried every syncing guide online including the one stated in the manual but nothing works.

Key turns ignition on no problem and manually operates drivers door but central locking nothing. Please don’t tell me it’s another £400 at Audi every time I let the battery run down?

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:46 pm

Should be an easy fix. No reason to change the key. The bit that does the central locking is completely independent of the bit of the key that does the anti-theft. Audi should have told you this rather than flog you a whole new key.

Have you tried the pairing procedure in the FAQ?

If that doesn't work you can wipe all the known fobs with the Vagcom and learn them again. Either with the pairing procedure or directly with the Vagcom.

Also, it's worth replacing the battery in the fob with a known good one. I have just thrown away a load of button cells that were new and reading the correct voltage for new cells but which couldn't power the fob. Junk. Last time I buy unbranded batteries.
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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Ben_r1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:56 pm

I don’t have any Vagcom so can’t do that. I don’t understand it was working perfect before the flat battery has it been wiped from memory or something???

Any chance claiming warranty on the work from Audi?

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:02 pm

If you got the new key less than 2 years ago and you have time to spare and plenty of hair to pull out, then try claiming with Audi under warranty.
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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Ben_r1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:10 pm

It was 14 months ago work carried out.

Strange that even by gaining access with the key and ignition on the central locking buttons in the car don’t work either? I’ve got no possible way of unlocking anything but the drivers door.

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:14 pm

Sounds like you've got another problem then. All the doors should open with the driver's door. Also the switch should work.

Could be that your door switch is faulty and it doesn't know that the door has been opened previously. Do your interior lights work properly? Vagcom will tell you the indicated state of the door switches. Oh wait...

You could check the fuses.
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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Ben_r1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:15 pm

No I replaced the entire drivers door mechanism last year with genuine Audi part, interior lights work as they should.

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Ben_r1 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:33 pm

I’m becoming very short tempered with this hunk of junk now, unfortunately despite what all the fan boys may suggest on here this is not a well built car.

It’s almost as if every ounce of its dna was built from the ground up to bleed anyone stupid enough to own one of every single penny. I refuse to accept every time the battery drains below 12v I have to fork out £400 for another bloody key! I’ve had £500 clios that have sat in fields for years and come back to full health with nothing more than a battery yet the RS6 can’t manage 6 months in a heated and dehumidified garage!? Pure insanity.

Unfortunately I can’t stretch to the luxury of my very own diagnostics programme solely for one car so Vagcom is out of the question. I borrowed my ‘generic’ diagnostics machine from work although the car will only connect under ‘VW generic’ not Audi.

Here’s what I’m getting:
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I have a ‘German car specialist’ over the road from my work and the head tech over there swears to me the key only needs resynching as even by being without battery for 6 months much like a memory card it can’t wipe data and if it were working before nothing is at fault now. I have tried every possible syncing process found on the web from multiple countries for all models and age of every Audi and nothing works.

I may actually need to rely on this expensive piece of scrap next week for job interviews and need it working by then. Sorry for the rant but I’ve owned many cars over the years that cost a tenth of this ones price when new and none have been so downright laughably unreliable. I can only assume the Germans drew inspiration from the Tiger tank on this one as it covers about as much mileage before stranding it’s occupants under the worst possible scenarios.

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Ben_r1 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:37 pm

Ps the first mechanical error description relates to the active door faults and the circuit cut 955 relates to key remote control problem.

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:40 pm

Sell it and buy a Clio.
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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Ben_r1 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:15 pm

Haha I could but you can’t shift a good one let alone one where the entire bloody family has to climb through the drivers door!

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by PipRS6 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:25 am

You say you can't stretch to VCDS but a limited VIN version is cheaper than the cost you paid for a new key. I think you can get a version for £250 or so... someone correct me if I am wrong. So sounds like you are £150 better off if it solves your problem. Plus its an extremely useful thing to have any time you have any issue.

As for the unreliability I am reminded of an old friend of my dads who was Italia and had a Lamboghini Diablo. I said to him once that it was a very nice car and he replied in a brilliant Italian accent "yes but the trouble is you have to have a second one for when this one is in the garage"....

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by srichards » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:05 am

A flat battery shouldn't kill the key working after it's been charged back up. You have something else wrong. I've flattened the main battery on mine a couple of times and they always work to close the door once the battery has been charged.

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by Ben_r1 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:17 am

If I use the diagnostic computer to activate ‘crash signal test’ it throws all the locks and the doors are now unlocked. With the ignition on the interior central locking buttons now work as they should.

Once you lock the car with the key in the drivers door and unlock it again only the drivers door throws. The alarm goes off but if you press and hold the unlock button on the fob the indicators stay on solid and return to flashing when you release the button so the car is picking up the signal and the key is working.

This is the only Vag car I own and will be the last so buying a diagnostics computer which will lock itself to this car is a waste of money.

Audi are not interested at all in warranty repair, I may have cocked up by explaining the situation as now they say by allowing the battery to go flat I’ve voided the warranty.

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Re: Key fob problems again

Post by ahoooga » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:29 pm

Ben_r1 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:17 am


Once you lock the car with the key in the drivers door and unlock it again only the drivers door throws. The alarm goes off but if you press and hold the unlock button on the fob the indicators stay on solid and return to flashing when you release the button so the car is picking up the signal and the key is working.
When you open the driver door with the key , put the key in the ignition and switch on within 10 seconds to stop the alarm. for shits and giggles, take the key out and see what the remote will do then in the way of lock/unlock.

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