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That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:09 pm
by Mark-RS
But not as substantial as the last time :D

M.O.T day gives me the following...

Headlight level is low.

Rear pads, which I knew were getting low anyway.

And Emmisions ! Which has suprised me !

Only failed on the Lambda readings, which judging by the paperwork should be between 0.97 and 1.03. Mine reads 1.16

They didn't really have a clue what the issue was but said, maybe exhaust leak, which they didn't find on inspection, air leak or sensor issue ?

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:34 am
by Mark-RS
So any advice on things I can get the garage to look at for this Lambda reading ?

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:18 pm
by simonpoulton
Check your OE exhaust (if you still have it) around the welds on the resonators. Mine had cracked and was giving high lamda readings. Replaced with Milltek naturally...

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:22 pm
by Ajc
Could also be a cat on it's way out . Did he check the reading on both tips or just the one ?

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:21 pm
by Mark-RS
Only checked on one tip. Passenger side.

Left it running at about 4krpm for about 10 mins which I though a bit much...

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:54 pm
by Daveperc
The hotter the better to get low readings.

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:27 pm
by R56WUF
My previous RS6 failed on the emissions test at Dundee Audi. I went and drove the car for about 1/2 mile with the car in second gear at approximately 60mph, took it straight back and the tester hooked it up and it passed. Always worth giving the system a wee blast.

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:07 pm
by Mark-RS
I did take it for a run before going there, but due to it being -2 I couldn't really give it any stick :-(

I really hope it's not the Cat... Don't see why it would be ? They don't go very often do they ?

I'm hopeful a service and a good check for leaks in the system should cure things :-)

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:44 am
by PipRS6
Yup, cats don't work unless they're warm. That's the point of the pre-cats. Closer to the engine they warm up quicker. Give it a good thrashing then ask the tested to do emissions first.

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:14 am
by Shoppinit
What do the car's lambda probes read? If they are not complaining and the car is failing emissions then it seems likely that one or both have failed.

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:07 am
by Ajc
Lambda reads air fuel mixture , they had a certain amount of tolerance , however I think the car uses a mixture of lambda and egt top work out how it needs too tweek it's running. In the turning world egt a bit more too . On the car the pre and post lambda is checks and altered , though I think the pre is more for the sia side and pre heating the first cat . I service and fresh filters can go a way too changing lambda reading though , so may be worth trying it if you've not already

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:32 pm
by Ben_r1
Doesn’t a failing cat usually give an eggy smell? But yes let’s hope it isn’t that, I’m betting it’s another ‘engine out job’.

A friendlier mot tester could be the easiest solution here :sekret:

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:09 pm
by Ajc
It is possible too get the cats out without dropping the engine , but it does still involve dropping the back end of the sub frame down and a really long extension bar .
Mine is soon too have no cats at all , so I wont have to worry . I work at a place that does mot's now :thumbs:

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:26 am
by Ben_r1
Ajc wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:09 pm
It is possible too get the cats out without dropping the engine , but it does still involve dropping the back end of the sub frame down and a really long extension bar .
Mine is soon too have no cats at all , so I wont have to worry . I work at a place that does mot's now :thumbs:
I was quoted for an engine out job to fit a pair of decats on mine as the specialist was adamant it’s near impossible to remove the bolts without the studs snapping.

Re: That time of year again... Failed for the 2nd year Iv'e had it !

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:27 pm
by Mark-RS
Oil change and Plug change and the readings are now within normal levels.

Back in tomorrow for the retest.