Timing still not right...

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Timing still not right...

Post by Jayjay101 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:26 pm

Hi chaps
So I’ve changed the timing cam chain and the tensioner used the locking tools and the belt is in the right place but it’s missing when running and the inlet cam looks off to me Imageas the arrow isn’t bang in the middle of the mark on the cam??i will say the tensioner isn’t a Audi one it’s a febi one now I’ve used them befor on my old 2.7t A6 and didn’t have any problems and it was all I could get before Xmas and I wanted to use the car over Xmas(clearly I haven’t!) any advice would be great as I’m at my wits end with the car now and I just want to enjoy it!! Cheers


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Post by Jayjay101 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:37 pm

This is the timing when it was runningImage


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Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:47 pm

When you lock the crank with the locking tool can you get the cam locking bar on?

Have you counted the chain links between the gears on both banks?
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Post by Jayjay101 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:49 pm

Shoppinit wrote:When you lock the crank with the locking tool can you get the cam locking bar on?

Have you counted the chain links between the gears on both banks?
I’ll be honest mate I haven’t checked yet-I threw a hissy fit and left it!Image


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Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:51 pm

Someone hide his wire cutters.
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Post by Jayjay101 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:54 pm

Shoppinit wrote:Someone hide his wire cutters.
ImageImage-I might get chance 2omoro to go and look at it if not Sunday and I’ll report back-anyone know off hand how many links between cams there’s ment to be?


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Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:59 pm

Left side 15. Right side 16.
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Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:01 pm

Can you take a picture of the exhaust came alignment, too? And maybe one of the whole lot?
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Post by Jayjay101 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:04 pm

Shoppinit wrote:Can you take a picture of the exhaust came alignment, too? And maybe one of the whole lot?
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I’ll pop out in a sec and try and get some more



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Shoppinit wrote:Can you take a picture of the exhaust came alignment, too? And maybe one of the whole lot?
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Post by Jayjay101 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:33 pm

If you go from cam mark to cam mark lining the pin up it’s 14 links-really hard to get a photo of the mark on the cam-if you look at it from the front the it’s like it’s on the edge of the cam mark


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Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:53 pm

OK, so that's bank 1 by the look of it. If you start at number 1 which is the chain roller in the exhaust sprocket then number 15 should be the roller you've got lined up with the mark on the inlet cam. Right?

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Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:55 pm

And on the other bank there should be one more link between them.
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Re: Timing still not right...

Post by Jayjay101 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:58 pm

Shoppinit wrote:OK, so that's bank 1 by the look of it. If you start at number 1 which is the chain roller in the exhaust sprocket then number 15 should be the roller you've got lined up with the mark on the inlet cam. Right?

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It’s the passenger side I’ve had a part and it’s 15 rollers or 14 links


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Re: Timing still not right...

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:00 pm

Sounds right then.

I don't think your timing is off enough to cause misfires. Is that with the engine at TDC?
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