new owner,not the best start with rs6

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Brooner » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:49 am

feck good luck getting it all sorted
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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Nobby » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:45 am

Don’t mean to be funny, but looks like you took the engine out first before looking under the covers. That’s a bit effort for something that could be checked with engine in situ. Where there any other signs the engine wasn’t at its best?

Looks pretty bad though. Lots of crud to get rid of in there.
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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by rs4wagon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:21 am

when i bought it i had plan to go euro trip in august,asked my friend to do the crank seal too thats why he took engine out.I wanted to do all the weak points just for peace of mind.Short time afer that we found all this crap.
Brooner wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:49 am
feck good luck getting it all sorted
thanks mate
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:51 am
Not quite the same performance machine as the RS6, but my sister's old 2003 1.2 Clio didn't have an oil change until it came to me. I think it went from 40k to 106k and looked like this, and I suspect the previous owner ragged the hell out of it (had a bad boy exhaust on it). I took the cylinder hear off, soaked for a couple of days in some good parts cleaner and came out spotless. Flushed the engine through with some ECP flushing oil, two filter changes and put back together. Still running to this day.
i think if i do same here ,i'll need another engine

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Gripper1 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:21 pm

I guess if there is no metal particles, or signs of excessive wear then it is just sludge. In theory a good clean and a lot of flushing and it should be fine and no need for a full stripdown and rebuild.

How any of the oil galleries haven't got blocked up though is anyones guess. Very lucky!

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by rs4wagon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:18 pm

yeah,very lucky,and very unlucky at the same time i bought it and trusted Ged,im 100% sure he knew!!i did drive this car round the blok,checked oil while we looking at it in Newcastle,no sign of such a mess at all,engine now is split into 100000s pieces,evertyhing was removed,every bolt!will post pic when it will be ready to be build up again

anyway the turbocharges now back form spa

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Weiß-sechs » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:56 am

Standard refurb or gone hybrid?

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by rs4wagon » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:46 pm

standard,but whio knows might send back and go hybrid :)

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:22 pm

360 degree thrust bearings? That's the one thing I'd recommend anyone doing while the turbos are apart. No change to performance etc, but it means the bearings last longer
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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by rs4wagon » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:04 pm

MattV8 wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:22 pm
360 degree thrust bearings? That's the one thing I'd recommend anyone doing while the turbos are apart. No change to performance etc, but it means the bearings last longer
not sure what have been done but he use this company for last 20years he siad,and had no problems so i reckon they know ,we'll see when it'll start driving again.Few more pic

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Jayjay101 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:17 pm

MattV8 wrote:360 degree thrust bearings? That's the one thing I'd recommend anyone doing while the turbos are apart. No change to performance etc, but it means the bearings last longer
THIS! I’ve had this done to mine


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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Gripper1 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:26 pm

Daft question, but mine is up to 140K miles on its original turbos. Most seem to last 100K+ as long as they aren't running silly boost and get regularly serviced, is longevity of the turbos really an issue on the RS6?

Does adding 360 deg thrust bearings add a lot to the cost of the refurb cost?

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:19 am

It's not really an issue - standard 270 degree bearings are fine, but 360 degree thrust bearings just a bit better.

I always figure turbos have about 100K lifespan, but can often go on a lot longer too. My old saab 9-5 had 180K miles on it and I think was on the original turbo. In my case, I had the RS6 apart, there was a small amount of oil coming past the seals (within what I'd call "normal used", but more than I'd like nevertheless) so I had them rebuilt. The 360 upgrade was about 50 quid I think.

See http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to ... ch-part-1/:
The 270 vs. 360 Dilemma
Many conventional journal- bearing turbos use a 270-degree thrust-bearing washer (at left), while the new breed of conventional and ball-bearing turbos employ 360-degree thrust bearings. The advantages of a 360-degree bearing include a full circle of lubrication, six orifices on the washer instead of three for the 270-degree unit, and an updated pad strategy to better disperse oil where it's needed. Turbonetics uses 360-degree bearings on all of its T04B and T04E turbochargers. There isn't much of a dilemma here; if you have the opportunity to use a 360-degree bearing, jump at it.
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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Daveperc » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:50 am

Mine ran past 200K without any sign of problems - though when I was scammed "turbo blown" was my first thought. :boohoo:

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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:50 pm

Yeah, not suggesting 100K is the limit - more an "at least" number on a stock one. Definately not a particular weak spot on the cars - actually, the motor package overall is very good on these.
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Re: new owner,not the best start with rs6

Post by rs4wagon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:10 am

so,ive ordered solid custom flywheel for conversion,tried box with BCY blok,all seems to work,not sure why they use thats spacer over the pond,my machanic stgarted to put all the pices back on the engine,also ordered 3.0 tdi dual clutch kit

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