H and R coil overs - worn out?

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H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Bishbosh » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:26 pm

My C5 RS6 Avant had H and R coil overs fitted by the previous owner 5 years ago with less than 20k miles since.

However, despite low mileage etc they appear to be on the way out.

Is this usual?

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Daveperc » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:50 pm

It's low in mileage but probably about right time wise.

Dampers are typically good for 60K miles which would be 6 years at 10K per year! (I got a degree in maffermatics!!) :oops:

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Ben_r1 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:23 pm

I went through a set of Bilstein coilovers on a light Clio 172 in two years and less than 10k. I sent them off for a service and was amazed when they said a full rebuild was needed.

With that in mind the above could well be true. What symptoms are you suffering from?

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Shoppinit » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:21 pm

H&R are saggy and crashy.
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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Bishbosh » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:36 pm

There's a binding noise coming from them.

I agree that they're "crashy".

If I am looking at replacements which are the best to go for if not H and R?

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by benh999 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:24 pm

Bilstein Pss9

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Puggie » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:29 am

benh999 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:24 pm
Bilstein Pss9
My billies are about 8 years old looking at the history of the car, and they are due a rebuild IMHO. Don't know if there anything better without spending serious money.

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:16 am

I like my PSS9. Car handles nicely on them. They bottom out a bit too easily if you hit a big dip or bump but otherwise they keep the car nicely planted even on poor surfaces.
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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by PipRS6 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:17 am

benh999 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:24 pm
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Seconded. I have these and they are the most comfortable coileys I have ever experienced. The weight of the car is a factor I'm sure. But the balance of firm ride and comfort is something I haven't had anywhere else. And that's on 20's with a very thin tyre profile.

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Weiß-sechs » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:07 pm

Ohlins FTW.....if you can find any :wink:

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:52 pm

Or afford them.
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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Weiß-sechs » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:07 pm

Shoppinit wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:52 pm
Or afford them.
Too right!

I seem to remember coming across a set on a Yank website a few years back; something like $5500 + tax + shipping :shock:

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Puggie » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:34 pm

If you find some ohlins, then look for penske's and the ohlins will seem good value!

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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by Capt Ric » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:23 pm

I could never understand why so many owners were so keen to remove DRC, for what appears to me to be inferior replacements that may not last any longer or be cheaper.
Now that Daveperk has moved on to C7, am I the only one left happy with DRC?
Replaced 2 leaking front shocks 7 years ago at 30k miles, now at 65k and all good.
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Re: H and R coil overs - worn out?

Post by DuncRS6 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:42 pm

Capt Ric wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:23 pm
I could never understand why so many owners were so keen to remove DRC, for what appears to me to be inferior replacements that may not last any longer or be cheaper.
Now that Daveperk has moved on to C7, am I the only one left happy with DRC?
Replaced 2 leaking front shocks 7 years ago at 30k miles, now at 65k and all good.
( hope that’s not famous last words!)
I think the first thing the new owner of Dave's car did was change it to coil overs.

I would assume that most people read about them going wrong often and thought it wouldn't be worth the hassle of having them.

My car has H&R coil overs which were fitted in 2005, so the owner at that time didn't think much of the DRC after only 2 years.

The next big purchase for my car will be a new set of Bilstein's as the H&R seemed to have sagged and the ride doesn't seem to be that great. Unfortunately I have nothing to compare it to but Bilstein's seem to get good reviews on here.
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