Manual gearbox swap
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Paris? KSF still going?
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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I’ve thought about going this route myself but to be honest I think bams right in the fact it’s not worth it ! Yanks are obsessed with ditching the slush box,U Can’t beat Being on boost on a B road going up and down though the gears using the paddles-my plan is level 10 kit-uprated converter-517 valve body-gauge to keep an eye on temps and build it all into my spare box over the winter.and try not to cut any wires this time
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c5 rs6 owner thats been known to cut the wrong wire.............
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Hi Daveperc, you're not serious right? Paddles control and manual gearbox are 2 different animals, a totally different experience ; I mean really!
RS6 C5 Avant 2003 Daytona Grey
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Re: Manual gearbox swap
RS6 C5 Avant 2003 Daytona Grey
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Re: Manual gearbox swap
What you mustn't forget is that a turbo motor on a manual box in what's ultimately "a barge", isn't gonna set you on fire. The autobox favours the classic (retro) turbo motor this car has (old fashioned plain bearing turbos etc) and uses the slip in the TC to lets the revs pick up and get the motor on boost quicker. A manual box, it's all up to you to get it on boost. I'd argue your 0-60 time would be slower unless you're really giving it 10/10 on a manual box. On a track car - hell yeah. On a 1.8t barge - no thanks.
"not a professional engineer, mechanic and mechanist"
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I'd say to each his own, and tbh I'm not that much interested in pure performance as such, but by the 'experience'.
If you enjoy driving - as we all do here I suppose- you understand there is a world of finesse in this clutch pedal, letting you decide exactly how and when to deliver the power to the wheels, just by playing with the slip.
Although it's probably true the latest generations of automatic gearbox would beat the manual equivalent in a 0-60mph contest, an old automatic gearbox like the 5HP24 always feels annoying and 'distant' to me. So yeah, even when driving a 'barge' like the RS6 i prefer to keep the stick!
If you enjoy driving - as we all do here I suppose- you understand there is a world of finesse in this clutch pedal, letting you decide exactly how and when to deliver the power to the wheels, just by playing with the slip.
Although it's probably true the latest generations of automatic gearbox would beat the manual equivalent in a 0-60mph contest, an old automatic gearbox like the 5HP24 always feels annoying and 'distant' to me. So yeah, even when driving a 'barge' like the RS6 i prefer to keep the stick!
RS6 C5 Avant 2003 Daytona Grey
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Re: Manual gearbox swap
The RS6 slushbox driving experience is greatly improved by an MTM TCU mod.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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I'll definetely keep this in mind, good to hear there's really some room for improvement.
RS6 C5 Avant 2003 Daytona Grey
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
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4k incl box and all the parts,you drop the car and collect it with manual box,company based in poland,he just done one,manual box and 2xgt28 tuned@ 1,1 bar 643 HP 875nm ,this was my next plan,but first i have to fix fooked engine,bought off here,one owner and i think he never changed oil,filters etc,think he never changed anything,Suppose to do cambelt and drc to make her mint,look at this <beep>
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Wow wow, that's really bad! Aren't you afraid the inner part would be in the same state?
Regarding the Polish company, by all means let us know how it goes!
Regarding the Polish company, by all means let us know how it goes!
RS6 C5 Avant 2003 Daytona Grey
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Re: Manual gearbox swap
I agree - particularly with respect to control of the clutch. However your earlier post said you didn't like a chip deciding which gear you should be in, and flappy paddle mode gives you full control of that.Paddles control and manual gearbox are 2 different animals, a totally different experience
Personally, with traffic the way it is on UK roads, (and from my memory Paris isn't too different), sitting riding a heavy clutch for hours in jams doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun as an "experience", though I'll grant that for a blast through open country on back roads it would be fun.
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That engine is horrific.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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First thing I do when I buy a car is change the oil every thousand miles until the oil stops going black immediately after the change, to flush everything out. That said, this one is way beyond that.
"not a professional engineer, mechanic and mechanist"
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I'm totally with you here, the car is not a daily that I would use during jam hours, but more a fun/weekend/vacation car to ride with the familyDaveperc wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:53 amPersonally, with traffic the way it is on UK roads, (and from my memory Paris isn't too different), sitting riding a heavy clutch for hours in jams doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun as an "experience", though I'll grant that for a blast through open country on back roads it would be fun.
RS6 C5 Avant 2003 Daytona Grey
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
Loba 650 turbos - Wagner IC - 200 cells cats - Milltek cat-back - Hotchkis bars - Bilstein B16 - MTM Wheels - oem coolant cap
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everything going to be taken apart,if theres no damage to the block,crank we'll clean it and put it all together,im shocked as car drive and sound normal,no smoke etc and its one owner which as you see is complete ......
well if i do flush i think this could be worse,theres no stuff that can melt this <beep> and oil change wont change anything,only way is to clean by hand
i do oil change every 6K in my cars
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