Advice please
RNS-e or Pioneer SPH-DA120
RNS-e or Pioneer SPH-DA120
I want to upgrade my RNS-d however I’m torn between the RNS-e and the Pioneer SPH DA-120. I like the OE look of the Audi unit however how does it compare functionality wise against the Pioneer unit, can it play music from my iPhone etc?
Advice please
Advice please
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You can add iPhone functionality to the RNS-E, also bluetooth, etc., but there's no doubt they are getting long in the tooth. I personally am very pro-OE look, but I don't need my head unit to do much. Just play stuff from my iPhone and sound good. I use an xcarlink to get music from the iPhone to the head unit, but just recently it's started to play up. I don't know why. Sigh. It's never been a brilliant device, just adequate.
/Oh yeah, another thing that is important for me is being able to control the iPhone from the steering wheel buttons (since I have the hi-spec, non poverty MFSW). There might be adapters to do that with the Pioneer. Dunno.
/Oh yeah, another thing that is important for me is being able to control the iPhone from the steering wheel buttons (since I have the hi-spec, non poverty MFSW). There might be adapters to do that with the Pioneer. Dunno.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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I have the pie-in-ear unit and the very plain asthetic means it looks OK in the dash. They play nice with apple phones, but android is a bit of a PITA, mirrorlink is so slow its barely useable, and doesn't support split screen. You really need a proper wired HDMI out if you are on Android, so something with MHL or usbc to hdmi. My old Sony xperia x is rubbish with it I'm going to try the wife's Samsung S9 and see if that will play nice when I get a chance. The other issue if you use the USB for video out, you may have power issues using if on long journeys. The old Sony xperia with their mag charging socket or something that does wireless charging would be best.
Edit, in response to the above post, pioneer use a resistive ladder on a 3.5mm jack for the remote, very easy to make up a remote, Sony wired remotes work with them too!
What is thus hi-spec steering wheel?
Edit, in response to the above post, pioneer use a resistive ladder on a 3.5mm jack for the remote, very easy to make up a remote, Sony wired remotes work with them too!
What is thus hi-spec steering wheel?
Last edited by Puggie on Sat May 26, 2018 5:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: RNS-e or Pioneer SPH-DA120
I had a remote once that you had to tie to the wheel with velcro. And a Sony one that had a lead running to the head unit. The former was useless and looked poo. The latter required a bit of thought for the installation, but worked really well.
Factory 4 spoke, heated steering wheel with head unit controls and tiptro buttons. By far the best option on the RS6 and causes much jealousy amongst those who only have the boring 3 spoke wheel. You'll see them rear their ugly green heads in a minute.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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Factory 4 spoke, heated steering wheel with head unit controls and tiptro buttons. By far the best option on the RS6 and causes much jealousy amongst those who only have the boring 3 spoke wheel. You'll see them rear their ugly green heads in a minute.
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4 spokes are for the ghay and confused 
, they are very grandpa spec for me . 3 spoke for the win , who needs heated hands Cheers Al
04 c5 rs6 , Ebony Black, Bare shell repaint , Milltek's, PSS9's,Hotchkis Arb's,Gutted precats, hybrid turbos, Bosch 044 ,And an annoying EML light
04 c5 rs6 , Ebony Black, Bare shell repaint , Milltek's, PSS9's,Hotchkis Arb's,Gutted precats, hybrid turbos, Bosch 044 ,And an annoying EML light
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Damn you now I need this wheel Re: RNS-e or Pioneer SPH-DA120
Lots of good points above.
Speaking personally, my car came with lots of extras, but only RNSD. It also has (I think) the alcantara sports spec wheel, so no wheel controls.
I am mindful that from a purity perspective it’s no longer OEM, but then the list of non oem things on any of them now is extensive (intercoolers, coilovers, ARB etc).
So my goal has always been to have a useable car, and I thought (and still think) the pioneer unit is plain enough to be a good compromise. If I had RNS-E and wheel controls, my view may have been different, but not having had either, I dunno really.
Speaking personally, my car came with lots of extras, but only RNSD. It also has (I think) the alcantara sports spec wheel, so no wheel controls.
I am mindful that from a purity perspective it’s no longer OEM, but then the list of non oem things on any of them now is extensive (intercoolers, coilovers, ARB etc).
So my goal has always been to have a useable car, and I thought (and still think) the pioneer unit is plain enough to be a good compromise. If I had RNS-E and wheel controls, my view may have been different, but not having had either, I dunno really.
"not a professional engineer, mechanic and mechanist"
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I have a Kenwood in mine. It's ok. Can't see the screen at all in sunlight though.
Car manufacturers are way behind the after market on functionality of head units. Their software update cycles will be a lot slower as well.
Are there any other later Audi units that might have the functionality and work maybe? Do any of the current RS6 units fit or current TT or RS8 ones?
https://smartworldcompany.com/audi-ente ... nit-guide/
The MMI ones sound the most advanced but it's whether you can fit them into the space.
Car manufacturers are way behind the after market on functionality of head units. Their software update cycles will be a lot slower as well.
Are there any other later Audi units that might have the functionality and work maybe? Do any of the current RS6 units fit or current TT or RS8 ones?
https://smartworldcompany.com/audi-ente ... nit-guide/
The MMI ones sound the most advanced but it's whether you can fit them into the space.
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Driving around today in bright sun, could see the pie-oh-near just fine.
"not a professional engineer, mechanic and mechanist"
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I have a pioneer in my other car. I can see that fine in sun as well!
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I've just installed a Pioneer DA something or the other in my car and love it. Apple CarPlay is good and well, that's pretty much all you need! I've stuck a cheap 3 sim in my old iPhone and it's essentially a dedicated car phone. (Don't tend to answer phone when driving anyway)
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I notice from their site that theres also now a sph-da130 available, which has DAB.
"not a professional engineer, mechanic and mechanist"
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Dab is great but it's a nightmare in retrofit scenarios.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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Antenna issues. Dab signals are notoriously weak and cars with factory fit dab have elaborate and optimised antennas.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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