Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:15 am

Full assemblies available on rockauto.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:24 am

By the time you've done the duty, vat and shipping works out about the same as OEM (from summit, anyways)
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:32 am

How much are they at Audi / TPS? £390 including delivery and VAT / customs on Rockauto.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:36 am

TPS I dunno. They won't talk to me. Probably about 50 quid.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:38 am

We must not be talking about the same thing.

I'm talking about the complete tensioner:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.ph ... cc=1411401
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:40 am

I wonder if you could machine some pads from steel and get them nitrided and hard chromed.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:41 am

No, we are talking about the same thing. I was just being grumpy about TPS and trade discounts.
Shoppinit wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:38 am
We must not be talking about the same thing.

I'm talking about the complete tensioner:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.ph ... cc=1411401
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:44 am

Gotcha.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by IchBautAuto » Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:41 am

Shoppinit wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:32 am
How much are they at Audi / TPS? £390 including delivery and VAT / customs on Rockauto.
That seems cheap. The RS4 ones, which may be the same part number, were selling at 410 pounds at a huge discount in December last year. Probably 100 pound off the normal audi price.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Shoppinit » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:06 am

Looks like Autodoc carry them, too. Even cheaper:

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/077109088c (I haven't checked the part number)
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Shoppinit » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:12 am

They are about £520 for OE parts.

Part numbers are: 077109088P and 077109087P for cylinders 1-4 and 5-8 respectively.

Looks like the Autodoc part is compatible.

Don't know anything about Vaico, but it's got to be better than some spurious bits off eBay.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:40 am

Have to admit, I'm really in 2 minds. Or 3.

I've found my LHS adjuster has injested it's gauze inlet filter - I found a bit of the debris from it inside the adjuster piston.
However it was/is working fine.

So I can't really decide whether to strip and clean it, buy new OEM or buy that Vaico one. (I note the Vaico one does have 19 positive stars against it).

And - it looks like it must've left the factory like this - it's been fine for 16 years etc....
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Shoppinit » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:51 am

It's a tricky one. In theory you shouldn't have debris in your oil if you are caring for your car correctly and the filter would be redundant, but my OCD would compel me to put a new one on there. I think I would try the Viaco one, though. Seems like a reputable company having had a quick look.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Classik » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:05 am

For best OEM prices, I'd ask Geoffrey at CONTACT@VAGDISCOUNT.COM.
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Re: Cam chain tensioners/pads removal and replacement guide

Post by Mɐʇʇ » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:14 am

Yeah, I've been googling Vaico too.

Quick sanity check please - which bank is the LHS, 1-4 or 5-8.
(I am used to the American V8 numbering sequence)
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