Front discs & pads

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Front discs & pads

Post by blm70 » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:56 pm

What do you lot think?

1.) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131610780842? ... EBIDX%3AIT

2.) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252187155077? ... EBIDX%3AIT (discs only)

As a third option KwikFit have quoted £740 (inc vat) to supply and fit a pair of front Zimmerman drilled discs and Brembo pads. Wouldn't normally use a fitter but the guys at my local KF do really look after my car so I'm happy to use them for some jobs.

Or, I might ask if they're prepared to fit if I supply...

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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by Ajc » Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:10 pm

There is a thread about what pads are any good and what aren't a page back or so . I belive although pagid pads are oe the compound is different to the stealer bought pads . Brembo didn't get a particularly good rep either . I think they overwhelming consensus was ferrado or stealer oe . Although someone will probably be along to confirm or correct shortly.
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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:28 am

I thought they were cheaper than that from ECP / GSF / 123 whatsit.
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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by blm70 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:58 am

Shoppinit wrote:I thought they were cheaper than that from ECP / GSF / 123 whatsit.
GSF want £360 per disc http://www.gsfcarparts.com/parts/brakin ... brake-disc :shock:

ECP are cheaper at £235 each but they're out of stock http://www.eurocarparts.com/brake-disc

123SpareParts can't find my registration (?) and searching by model causes the server to crash. Meh.

Update: the eBay link above can also be found on the TSR website: http://www.tsr-performance.com/webshop/ ... -tsrrs6pk/ and looks by far the best option imho..
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Saab 9-3 Aero Estate 2.8 v6 2006, 3" stainless downpipe & remap, 302hp & 380lb/ft.
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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:09 am

I bought some from Germany once. No issues. I'd go for one if the sets on eBay.de.
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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by Jay_g » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:12 am

I've ordered the second link, they are seriously <beep> me around with shipping them, I'll uUpdate this when they arrive!

The first link I'm dubious whether they are actual OEM pads, not the cheap pagid ones. When I messaged him, he didn't even know OEMs were pagid RS

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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by blm70 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:16 am

Thanks chaps - just updated my 2nd post to link to TSR's website.

Interesting.
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Saab 9-3 Aero Estate 2.8 v6 2006, 3" stainless downpipe & remap, 302hp & 380lb/ft.
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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:18 am

They'll be the cheap Pagid / Textar / etc pads. Probably not worth the money IMO.
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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by blm70 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:23 am

Ah, OK - looks like the eBay.de option is the way to go then. They also sell Brembo pads although which of the two below should I go for?

1.) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREMBO-Brake- ... 2319035641

2.) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brembo-Brake- ... 2207128634

Oddly enough, the cheaper ones appear to be slightly thicker (17.7mm v 16.7mm) although the more expensive ones have a wear sensor. Does that really matter?
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Saab 9-3 Aero Estate 2.8 v6 2006, 3" stainless downpipe & remap, 302hp & 380lb/ft.
Rouse Sport 304R Sapphire Cosworth 1990 (stock), 260hp & 300lb/ft.

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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:35 am

I don't think they'll be any better than the Textar / ECP. Either OE or Branded performance pad like Pagid RS or Ferodo DS2500.

Or if you want cheaper pads then might as well just get the ECP ones.
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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by blm70 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:45 am

Shoppinit wrote:
Or if you want cheaper pads then might as well just get the ECP ones.
Yeah, not looking for DS2500s etc. and the standard pads have been fine. ECP are doing Brembo/Textar for around the £65 mark so might as well get them and the discs from Germany.

And KwikFit will only fit parts they supply for 'insurance reasons', which translates to helping empty your wallet. Will ask my Audi Master Tech to sort it privately..
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TT Mk1, 225 Quattro Misano Red, AmD map

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RS6 Avant 2004, MRC Stage 1+, Bilstein Coilovers, Milltek & s/s downpipes
Saab 9000 Aero 1997, GT3071, Siemens Dekka 630s, Forge 50mm i/c, 3" downpipe, Maptun stainless header, Konis, Quaife lsd, a/c deleted, 4.05 ratio 'box, custom map, 470hp & 440lb/ft.
Saab 9-3 Aero Estate 2.8 v6 2006, 3" stainless downpipe & remap, 302hp & 380lb/ft.
Rouse Sport 304R Sapphire Cosworth 1990 (stock), 260hp & 300lb/ft.

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Front discs & pads

Post by Jay_g » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:53 am

I've decided I'm going for DS2500s (after much deliberation!)

I've got brembos on there at the moment, and I hate them. I'm not a hard driver, but there's a few stretches of dual carriageways with roundabouts near me (actually you know the ones, going from Tesco Rainham towards the M2) and I can normally have brake fade by the third roundabout, and that's not really trying.

The discs are well and truly shagged though. It would be alright if they wasn't ordered a month ago....

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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by SuprSi » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:11 pm

I remember buying some Apec pads which were terrifying, nearly put me 6 feet under a couple of times. No point skimping on pads. Pagid RS/OEM/Ferrodo.

If your discs aren't below the min wear thickness you might be able to get them skimmed. It's always a good option if you need new pads but discs aren't quite done yet.
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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by blm70 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:38 pm

Jay_g wrote: there's a few stretches of dual carriageways with roundabouts near me (actually you know the ones, going from Tesco Rainham towards the M2) and I can normally have brake fade by the third roundabout, and that's not really trying.
I know where you mean :lol:
Jay_g wrote:The discs are well and truly shagged though. It would be alright if they wasn't ordered a month ago....
Mine have started juddering when braking from 60-70 so it's time to replace them.
Current:
TT Mk1, 225 Quattro Misano Red, AmD map

Former:
RS6 Avant 2004, MRC Stage 1+, Bilstein Coilovers, Milltek & s/s downpipes
Saab 9000 Aero 1997, GT3071, Siemens Dekka 630s, Forge 50mm i/c, 3" downpipe, Maptun stainless header, Konis, Quaife lsd, a/c deleted, 4.05 ratio 'box, custom map, 470hp & 440lb/ft.
Saab 9-3 Aero Estate 2.8 v6 2006, 3" stainless downpipe & remap, 302hp & 380lb/ft.
Rouse Sport 304R Sapphire Cosworth 1990 (stock), 260hp & 300lb/ft.

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Re: Front discs & pads

Post by blm70 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:45 pm

SuprSi wrote: If your discs aren't below the min wear thickness you might be able to get them skimmed. It's always a good option if you need new pads but discs aren't quite done yet.
Thought about skimming them but they've been on the car for 5 years now and covered 40k (receipt from Newcastle Audi which also included a replacement caliper) so I'm happy to have them replaced.

As mentioned above they also judder when braking from 60-ish, plus I'm getting an unusual grumbling noise just before the car comes to a stop (or if creeping along in traffic and braking to a stop) which might be a sticking caliper. My mechanic is going to service the calipers at the same time as changing the discs/pads. Considering I only do around 3k miles a year they'll probably never need changing again!
Current:
TT Mk1, 225 Quattro Misano Red, AmD map

Former:
RS6 Avant 2004, MRC Stage 1+, Bilstein Coilovers, Milltek & s/s downpipes
Saab 9000 Aero 1997, GT3071, Siemens Dekka 630s, Forge 50mm i/c, 3" downpipe, Maptun stainless header, Konis, Quaife lsd, a/c deleted, 4.05 ratio 'box, custom map, 470hp & 440lb/ft.
Saab 9-3 Aero Estate 2.8 v6 2006, 3" stainless downpipe & remap, 302hp & 380lb/ft.
Rouse Sport 304R Sapphire Cosworth 1990 (stock), 260hp & 300lb/ft.

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