160,000 Mile RS6
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
I'm not sure I can answer specifically. Certainly of the cars I build, the leftover bits box is generally not enough to cause to much worry. (Joke. Leftover bits is only ever what I've replaced).
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IchBautAuto
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Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Only musing! One of the mysteries of the world no doubt. Never any left over bits from mine. The box of replaced parts is huge. Many are re-buildable though so they haven't gone to the tip just yet. Wonder when the day will come when critical service parts are NLA. Just stocking up for the next cam belt change just to be sure to be sure.
C5 RS6, Milltek and Wagners: B5 RS4 450 + HP: A4 1.8 GP TQS original: 1963 UNIMOG 404:
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Ha, yes same here. I've got loads of parts that could potentially be reused or refurbed if I get desperate.
I think that day has already come. Lots of parts that are critical to the car running that you can't get any more and I don't know how that's going to play out. If you bought a car from the 60's you could potentially machine / fabricate any part that you couldn't get any more, but what do you do when you need a new TCU? Those are already NLA.
I think that day has already come. Lots of parts that are critical to the car running that you can't get any more and I don't know how that's going to play out. If you bought a car from the 60's you could potentially machine / fabricate any part that you couldn't get any more, but what do you do when you need a new TCU? Those are already NLA.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
I do the same. 2 large boxes of spares. And as Tony says - even the used idler from the last cam belt change, it only has a few thousand on, so I kept that too.
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Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
I've done a couple of megasquirt EFIs and they're not so hard. Maybe this could be an option in future : http://www.msgpio.com/manuals/mshift/newtrans.html
Do you think the TCU is a particular weak spot, or is that just a "for instance"?
Do you think the TCU is a particular weak spot, or is that just a "for instance"?
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It's mostly that it's something that would be really hard to replace with a different solution. There's so much going on. No doubt you could get the gearbox to work more or less with something like the Megasquirt, but what about ESP, ABS and comms with the ECU. There's so much integration.
I guess you could say something similar about ABS module, airbags, etc. All stuff you could technically drive the car without. But not in the same way as it originally was. Maybe that's not as big a deal as I think it is.
I guess you could say something similar about ABS module, airbags, etc. All stuff you could technically drive the car without. But not in the same way as it originally was. Maybe that's not as big a deal as I think it is.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Still thinking about the TCU... it's doing quite a lot. Adjusting solenoid currents for wear, taking inputs from steering angle sensor to avoid shifting during cornering, learning driving style for 'D' program. Think you'd have to forsake all that with a belt and braces controller.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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So probably, just doing a manual conversion would be the list sticky path out of the <beep>?
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Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
No way I would convert the RS6 to manual. IMHO it's no longer an RS6 if you do that.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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Just throwing ideas out there - it's you that's worried about the TCU. 
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Sure. But it raises the point of at which point is the car so denatured that it no longer would hold classic value. Not that owning a classic is everyone's objective. I just want to keep mine as standard as possible. I kept everything to put DRC and C5 brakes back on, for example.
I'm not too worried about the TCU. I've got a spare one. I believe in redundancy is what I believe in.
I'm not too worried about the TCU. I've got a spare one. I believe in redundancy is what I believe in.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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IchBautAuto
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Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Agreed, Gradually building up stock of those "critical" items that are common on the failed items list. Picked up a Sportec modified TCU, complete gearbox and TQ, New alternator on order, box of parts like EGT, Fuel parts, some sensors etc. Of course the best and cheapest approach is just pick up a spare car like Gregstv.
While I'd like the ability to be able to revert to stock, I've taken up the view that some components were poorly designed or specified and a car with "FL" type improvements would in fact be as attractive to anyone who planned to drive it as opposed to just look at it. Most have made these changes by now anyway.
Having both an RS4 and RS6 doubles the problem. I do have two spare 01E gearboxes, one totally rebuilt with all the best gear, so the manual conversion route is also possible without compromising myself. While I do enjoy the auto, I also drive the RS4 a lot and quite like the manual option. If you look back to the days of yore, Autobahn blasters like the Jaguar 3.8S, Aston Martin and so on were available in manual and were probably more fun for it. I rarely drive in traffic so my options are a bit skewed, but then I only have to please myself.
C5 RS6, Milltek and Wagners: B5 RS4 450 + HP: A4 1.8 GP TQS original: 1963 UNIMOG 404:
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