performance pub talk

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Re: performance pub talk

Post by dunk5y » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:44 pm

Mr Footlong wrote:dunk5y , the same was done to my car when I joined if memory serves and I took it as just one of those things and at times it was useful. I didn't directly slate the car, I said that courtesy of the previous owner, it sounded like a bit of a dog.

Also, you can't deny that based on the RIP owner having photos of it on the web with a Boot full of NOS, pictures of it on fire (mild or otherwise) and information that he built it specifically for ragging around, that is going to heavily cloud most peoples opinions on the car. After seeing the pics Rob took of it on another thread, it has really grown on me (except for the wood trim :P) but I still wouldn't have a manual in one regardless of the timebomb I currently have driving the wheels...

My comments about QST stay regarding their pricing, it is a shame as they would have easily had me as a customer had they not been more competitive imo.
It happened to me so I will make it happen to you? come on we are all grown men, read my previous post above...

The wood trim yep have to agree I didn't like it when I first brought the car but it does grow on you after owning it for a few months, QST yes very expensive have to agree but every time I have been there the place is full to the brim of cars being repaired and modified, maybe some people like to pay a little more for piece of mind?

On a side note sorry to hear of your personal circumstances and hope you get through it ok, as someone who works in nursing it is something I come across daily and it is bloody hard, I admire your fight and attitude :thumbs:

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Re: performance pub talk

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:50 pm

dunk5y wrote:I get the feeling some people need to read up on the history of the car and gather the facts, the NOS was used to cool engine!
Just curious... how is nitrous oxide is used to cool the engine without it ending up in the inlet charge?
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Re: performance pub talk

Post by Mr Footlong » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:59 pm

Could it not be like intercooler waterspray, only in a far greater quantity using the evaporative effect,to hugely cool the charge temp over a prolonged period of time (based on the entire frikking boot of NOS bottles)? I reckon I am well off the mark but. Could be mixing it in to the actual flow but I have less than no clue about that.
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Re: performance pub talk

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:09 pm

Dunno. No doubt dunk5y will be able to tell us, since, unlike us, he will have looked into the history of the car.

Spraying nitrous onto the outside of the intercoolers would be like using a flamethrower to melt chocolate by using it to heat up a swimming pool then dipping the chocalate in.
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Re: performance pub talk

Post by robwight » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:10 pm

Shoppinit wrote:
dunk5y wrote:I get the feeling some people need to read up on the history of the car and gather the facts, the NOS was used to cool engine!
Just curious... how is nitrous oxide is used to cool the engine without it ending up in the inlet charge?
Nos / water sprayed directly onto the intercoolers & pipework keeping them cool , as mentioned before Kim @ QST took them off as it was a bit elaborate for the gains.. it was running just over 700bhp with the spray , Dunk may correct me on that but thats info passed on to me I havent a clue as never rolling roaded it.

BTW alright Dunk ? as mentioned before over the moon with the car ..

Did you ever get into the subject with Kim regards the gains of manual = wheel bhp ?

I think i read the auto box has roughly 33% loss to wheels while manual is 20% give or take ? It wasnt until I read that difference I figured out why someone would spend 11 grand making it a manual ..

Take it easy
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Re: performance pub talk

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:21 pm

If that's the case, he was right to remove it then... completely pointless spraying it onto the intercoolers. Now, injecting it into the inlet charge would be insanely fun, and probably hideously difficult to manage the mixture without causing engine damage.
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Re: performance pub talk

Post by dunk5y » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:29 pm

robwight wrote:
Shoppinit wrote:
dunk5y wrote:I get the feeling some people need to read up on the history of the car and gather the facts, the NOS was used to cool engine!
Just curious... how is nitrous oxide is used to cool the engine without it ending up in the inlet charge?
Nos / water sprayed directly onto the intercoolers & pipework keeping them cool , as mentioned before Kim @ QST took them off as it was a bit elaborate for the gains.. it was running just over 700bhp with the spray , Dunk may correct me on that but thats info passed on to me I havent a clue as never rolling roaded it.

BTW alright Dunk ? as mentioned before over the moon with the car ..

Did you ever get into the subject with Kim regards the gains of manual = wheel bhp ?

I think i read the auto box has roughly 33% loss to wheels while manual is 20% give or take ? It wasnt until I read that difference I figured out why someone would spend 11 grand making it a manual ..

Take it easy
That was my understanding ....

video of the said car on YouTube...

http://youtu.be/T294O2CqO_k

NOS pumped out?

As for the number plate query, my understanding was when he drove the car abroad he had a different set of number plates where the last letter was a D instead of the legal U at th nd of th reg number.

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Re: performance pub talk

Post by Mr Footlong » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:30 pm

Woot, I wasn't wrong :D. With all this talk about how fast these barges are blah blah mine is THIS big, I think we all need to go on a track and duke it out. I swore I wouldn't ever bother tracking, but I will be in the new scoob and will show you all how to go around bends properly (in theory or just stack it LIKE A BOSS, either way, all good fun), then you can all show me how having sod all torque in comparison fares on the straights......

They won't let a piece of jazzed up Jap Crap on the track at ADI will they?
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"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
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Re: performance pub talk

Post by ahoooga » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:40 pm

Mr Footlong wrote: but I will be in the new scoob and will show you all how to go around bends properly
Oh dear ! Footers HAS flipped , he's going to be the first one on here to go round the bend by my reckoning

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