Price of TC compared with new gearbox
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
If they change every single bit in the box, like ZF do, then all well and good. I personally wouldn't play Russian roulette with gearbox builders.
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BillTheButcher
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Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
Some of the RS6s for sale are at 80k or more and still on the original 'box.
Once they get to this sort of mileage, is it only a matter of time before the gearbox goes or can they last the life of the car if they're serviced regularly?
Once they get to this sort of mileage, is it only a matter of time before the gearbox goes or can they last the life of the car if they're serviced regularly?
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
Mine is still on the original box and (touch wood) going strong.
My thoughts on the matter are that there are some that have components of varying quality / durability in them that lead to bigger failures. With my old ZF box in the rangey, there is a way to test the line pressure. I bet that if you could measure the ATF pressure being applied in boxes that fail quickly as opposed to those that last you would a significant difference.
I am starting to think that the 517 trans valve body might be the way to go to help with box longevity. It's a good halfway measure - the box doesn't need to come out and you get the improved driveability.
Very definitely, though, it is always a question of time with autoboxes. They have "consumables" in them. Like brakes or a clutch.
I think that sympathetic driving helps with box longevity, too.
My thoughts on the matter are that there are some that have components of varying quality / durability in them that lead to bigger failures. With my old ZF box in the rangey, there is a way to test the line pressure. I bet that if you could measure the ATF pressure being applied in boxes that fail quickly as opposed to those that last you would a significant difference.
I am starting to think that the 517 trans valve body might be the way to go to help with box longevity. It's a good halfway measure - the box doesn't need to come out and you get the improved driveability.
Very definitely, though, it is always a question of time with autoboxes. They have "consumables" in them. Like brakes or a clutch.
I think that sympathetic driving helps with box longevity, too.
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///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
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Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
Thanks. 
I have a contingency budget for things going wrong; I was just wondering if it definitely needed to include £2.5k for a 'box rebuild.
I have a contingency budget for things going wrong; I was just wondering if it definitely needed to include £2.5k for a 'box rebuild.
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Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
What do you think is a sensible service interval for the gearbox? I've got paperwork that shows mine's been done three times in 70,000 miles, @ 50k, 57k and 67k.
Every 10k, 20k, 40k miles?
Every 10k, 20k, 40k miles?
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
20K.
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Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
Yeah, or every 2 years if the miles are done.
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Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
as far as im aware mines never had a gearbox service its 04 and done 77k miles is it worth doing one or am i likely to just open up a can of worms?
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
Do you have any gearbox fault symptoms?
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
At worst, by servicing the box now, you will expose a condition that was about to reveal itself anyway.
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///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
+1Shoppinit wrote:At worst, by servicing the box now, you will expose a condition that was about to reveal itself anyway.
If It's gonna go It's gonna go. Best thing to do is pressure Ben at AMD into getting a sorted 517 box.
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
no fault simpoms as of yet 'touch wood' its running great, im just wondering if its worth doing to prolong life, only thing is ive read that by doing the oil and filter change now you can just disturb things and cost yourself a small fortune lol
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
Just get it changed mate, we all live in fear.
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Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
Just service it. It won't do it any harm. If it fails afterwards, it was about to fail anyway and was only being kept going by the swarf.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: Price of TC compared with new gearbox
chunky79 wrote:+1Shoppinit wrote:At worst, by servicing the box now, you will expose a condition that was about to reveal itself anyway.
If It's gonna go It's gonna go. Best thing to do is pressure Ben at AMD into getting a sorted 517 box.
yea ive read about this 517 conversion sounds like a good shout, but to be honest im still reeling from spending 12k buying it dont really wanna blow another 5k on a gearbox for a while if i can help it, plus if i did i think she'd gut me!! lol
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