Bluetooth music options?

[SchrickRS6]

Well I have a Bluetooth adapter (Viseeo Tune2Air - superb bit of kit with lossles audio - used it on my M5).

The small Tune2Air unit has a 30 pin connector on one side, my questions:-

1/ What cable do I need to connect it ....if I want it to use the input for 6 CD chnager?
2/ Is it better to use the TV Tuner - if I want to keep the CD Player?
3/ The TV tuner is on the opposite side to the CD changer in the boot isn't it?

[SchrickRS6]

Well I decided to go with the Dension Gateway Lite, so I can get Bluetooth, calls and streaming.

[tmg]

so I've just spent the week with the following three setups in my c6 s6 and my android phone (with ami) and here's a few observations...

note that none of these will show text on the MMI screen, as they all work via Aux. most thrid party solutions that can are using a hack around CD TEXT, but that can be ungood too.
anyway.

1: aukey thing that Shop was recommending - popped that on an ami lead that gives a micro usb and 3.5mm jack. sounds ok, pairs up ok, but you have to turn the damn thing on each time you start the car with the button on the front of it, and with the AMI in a glove box, not so great. sounds is surprisingly good and for the money, pretty unbeatable.

2: a viseeo tune2air with mmi (and apple 30 pin connector). overall it works ok, sound is ok, and you get previous/next functionality from the mmi buttons with it even on an android phone (I believe iphone integration is pretty special, but i dont have an iphone. its pretty seamless, and the sound is ok, but their firmware update process is beyond garbage, and with that level of support, dont expect them to be around for much longer. that said, overall a clean install, and easy to use. I did have horrible problems with it interfering with the audi phone kit, but after I wiped all the "remembered" bluetooth connections on my phone and reset it all up, it worked a bit better.

3: the sony bm10. so this works pretty much the same as the aukey, but some subtle differences. it needs around 800mA to run, and the MMI cable only gives you 500mA, which means you need to run in a usb from somewhere (which I had already in the glovebox, so all good). pairing is easy, and it will switch on and off with the ignition if you have it wired to a switched power source, so no need to keep turning it on. the sound from it though is just incredible. I'm not the pickiest, but the sound is easily noticeable as fuller and better than any of the other two.

I've ended up with the bm10 as my bt setup of choice as a result.

hope this is of help to someone!

t.

[Shoppinit]

That's an extremely useful comparison.

The Aukey is a pain for turning itself off, but the sound quality is impressive.

Just bought a BM10 based on your review. I will compare it to the Aukey on my hifi , though I'm surprised that the sound quality is noticeably different.

So looking at the bm10 does it just come on as soon as it gets power through the USB port? I guess you need a 12V -> USB adapter, too.

Here's an idea:

why not use the Viseeo thing to charge and control the device, then the BM10 for the audio side? That way you get the best of both worlds? I'm thinking this might be the way forward with the xcarlink.

[tmg]

so yeah - the bm10 comes on with power and doesnt have in inbuilt battery like the aukey, so goes off when the usb goes off too.

I have something like this wired in behind the glove box, so thats where I get power.

wrt the viseeo quesiton, it wont work as the ami has only one connection, so I can only connect one device at a time.

however, you can get remote controls that will work over bluetooth, which would get you that.

I use a kenu airframe mounted in the air vent, and run ultimate car dock to give me nice big buttons to control the music

[SchrickRS6]

That was useful info thanks tmg.

Strange but in the bimmer the Viseeo provided very good quality playback with BT streaming as it uses A2DP.

Are using the RNS-D tmg?

I still havent installed my Dension yet....

[tmg]

Hey

so I'm in a c6 s6 with MMI 2g.

to be clear, the viseeo is actually ok, but i was surprised by the fact that the bm10 was noticeably better (at least to my very specifically non-audiophile ears)

also as a note, don't tap the wiring going to the back of an ami or other random bit on a c6 gen car - a switched power source isn't available back there as all the bits are turned on and off via can. you have to tap a fuse in the left hand side fuse box.
t.

[tmg]

Just bought a BM10 based on your review. I will compare it to the Aukey on my hifi , though I'm surprised that the sound quality is noticeably different.

so get yours yet?

t.

[Shoppinit]

Yup. It turned up. Haven't deboxed it yet. I'll have a go now.

[Shoppinit]

OK, so using my hifi system, listening to the same track, I switched between the following, trying as best as possible to compensate for the different levels:

1. CD player
2. iPhone through BM10
3. iPhone through Aukey

The CD sounds awesome.

To be brutally honest, the BM10 sounds fecking awful and I think I'll be sending it back. It *might* be alright in a noisy car environment, but there's no way I could listen to it on a hifi system. I might try it plugged into my xcarlink Aux-in to see what it sounds like in the M3, but I can already tell I'm losing loads of frequencies.

The Aukey sounds nice. Eminently listenable to, but just not quite the range of the CD. I suspect most people in a blind test wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

OK. It was just one track, but it's a nicely produced one, and one I'm used to using to compare different setups.

[Shoppinit]

So, further to previous, it looks like Apple don't use AptX on iOS. This might be causing it to stream using the SBC codec to the BM10 which will sound <beep>. *Maybe* AptX streaming sounds good.

Unfortunately I don't have anything other than Apple stuff that I can test the BM10 with so it's moot.

I think I'm going to return it and get one of these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aukey-Bluetooth ... ukey+BR-C3

Says it comes on with the ignition. I just hope it's the same sound quality as the BR-C2.

/the Sony does have awesome range though. I'll give it that.

[tmg]

huh

apologies for the bad steer in that case!

I'm running mine off an android phone, so I'll try it with an i-something later today.

this will sound bad though

I have a skoda superb combi for lugging stuff around, and I have the 10 speaker system from the factory, and I installed a good panasonic sub in the boot wheel well. it was really bugging me that the sound from that was way better than the sound from the bose system in the audi, until i put in the BM10, and now the audi has that big full sound as well.

again, not an audiophile in any way shape or form, so I have no idea as to why, but i would say to try it in a car before chucking it

[Shoppinit]

Cool. Will be interested to see if you can hear a difference with the iThing.

/is your Android phone AptX then?

[tmg]

So I had to Google what apt-x is, and apparently nope. Not on my phone allegedly.

[Shoppinit]

Did you try with an apple device?

I just ordered an Aukey car BT adapter. Will check it to make sure quality is as good as the other Aukey adapters I've got then stick it in the M3 connected to the xcarlink. Might modify the wiring so that I can still change the tracks from the headunit, but have the sound from the Aukey.