I think the trick to keeping running costs on these cars is sourcing cheaper parts where possible - 2nd hand or OE quality new parts. I am sure I have seen rads for the RS6 at about £300 for Valeo which I would buy without hesitating (having worked there). Doing the work yourself is a good way to save money, too, but it's not for everyone.
The oil / ATF cooler is a PITA because Audi rape you for it since you can't get it anywhere else.
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VALEO : 734859 £300.
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"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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Malcolm I fear that guy is me. Just so we're clear but I can afford the repairs I just dont see how firstly my bill is £4k-£5k, and Andy @ a4audi said that he wouldn't be spending the money on it, as he may well not be able to fix each and every problem without the bill running more than the car. What I find very strange is I had an Audi tech look at it 6 months ago and he said it was one of the best 6's he had seen and worked on, so I'm totally lost and will get Andy to put through its mot then take the car to get a second opinion, but I'm feckin gutted. Wasn't expecting that one was I!!!! Oil cooler And pipe work needs done, but on the upside he doesn't think my heads are shot.... Wished it was now and that was her.....triple bah........
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Hmm. Are you sure of the credentials of A4A?
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"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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To be fair - I don't think he meant you personally couldn't afford the repairs. He was making the comment on the cost of the repair v the value of the car. Although I have to say if I put my car in and he came back with an estimate of £5k i'd struggle!
Over and above the leaks I also had quite a few other things that were recommedned / advisory but I'll defer these and pick up later. A4Audi has serviced and repaired my car for about two years now and to be honest I've trusted their opinion to date.
I don't mind doing some of my own repairs but it's my daily transport and and I struggle with getting the time to do some of these repairs.
Over and above the leaks I also had quite a few other things that were recommedned / advisory but I'll defer these and pick up later. A4Audi has serviced and repaired my car for about two years now and to be honest I've trusted their opinion to date.
I don't mind doing some of my own repairs but it's my daily transport and and I struggle with getting the time to do some of these repairs.
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Not for longIrodeon wrote:Malcolm I fear that guy is me.
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Sweegie I can't thank you enough for taking the time to go through this with me mate, was like Mount Everest had been dropped on my head. Which it had with that bill? I will call you on Wednesday night mate and i will be in a position to let you see the "3 pages" of faults ahem!!!!And everyone else for that matter who's interested. Now I appreciate there were "minor issues" she is 10 years old!!!!, but nothing like what this guys is suggesting, flips sake, Grizz can put a recon tranny in for £3500. Surely not that many fundamental faults, either that or someone is talking the "Baws Aff A Pitbull", as he's so inundated with work, and the time he would need on my car doesn't justify the cost against the value, however the guys was even reluctant to remove the front end, to 'actually check' my oil cooler, Sorry but his credentials with his responses didn;t fill me with confidence either that Sweegie will be on Thursday letting everyone know what a bucket I've got,.....I have confidence in you sweegie LOL no pressure mate!!!
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If in doubt.....Flat Out--tribute to the late great Colin McRae
If in doubt.....Flat Out--tribute to the late great Colin McRae
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just checked my previous repair bills ( http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?t=82989#p371496 ) - the rad was replace with a new Audi one in Sep 2008, so quite a while ago. The warranty picked up that cost (£557). It also says a blocked oil cooler was replaced (£895). So coolers have a 5 year life span? 
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Irodeon wrote: he's so inundated with work, and the time he would need on my car doesn't justify the cost against the value, however the guys was even reluctant to remove the front end, to 'actually check' my oil cooler, Sorry but his credentials with his responses didn't fill me with confidence
Agree they're very busy but they still took the time to take my car in the morning i called and then today he took the time to go through a reasonably long list of items needing repaired or seeing to and we agreed what was essential to get the car back on the road. I've been promised it back for Wed, subject to parts availability. They did say the pipes for the oil cooler were difficult to come by just now...
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Surely a like hose company can make the pipes up if required?
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Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
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Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
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Lol Malcolm he's told me Wednesday night for pick up of mine, so maybe I will see you down there bud? Show me what a good 6 is meant to look like if mine is a dog, as a4audi kindly put it.
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i too have 2 knackered oil cooler lines! tps have quoted me just under 300 (inc vat) for the 2 that i need. going to take the front end off next week and remove said pipes and see if pirtek can make up some a little cheaper.
if not TPS can get them within 2 days!
if not TPS can get them within 2 days!
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I'm lying awake trying to understand where all these fluids came from?! 
I came out to find a large (2-3 square feet) puddle of very clear oily liquid under the nearside front of the car. The car was stationery for the best part of the day. Most likely suggestion is ATF - either from the top part of the oil cooler or a joint further back from that.
In this picture
you'll see a small amount of black oil under the offside of the car - from the bottom part of the cooler?? You can also see the undertray is dry in the middle with the oily patches either side. (I did wipe them down before the pic)
At no time did i see any water / anti-freeze. I even recall checking the the expansion tank as I was unsure about the clear oily liquid initially.
I read this;
Gear oil cooling
To ensure a long gearbox service life, use is again made of two coolers:
Water-to-oil cooler
After starting the engine, the oil starts to flow in the area of the water-to-oil cooler. As the coolant in the water circuit warms up more quickly, the gear oil thus also attains its operating temperature sooner.
Air-to-oil cooler
The air-to-oil cooler additionally fitted in the circuit maintains the temperature at an optimum level when increased power is required.
Where's the Water-to-oil cooler?
A bit of a ramble i know but I'm struggling to understand how I could get three leaks all at once. I though maybe i'd a stone come up and go through oil cooler and rad but then there's the condenser between the cooler and rad isn't there?? Has it just been a perfect storm?
I came out to find a large (2-3 square feet) puddle of very clear oily liquid under the nearside front of the car. The car was stationery for the best part of the day. Most likely suggestion is ATF - either from the top part of the oil cooler or a joint further back from that.
In this picture
you'll see a small amount of black oil under the offside of the car - from the bottom part of the cooler?? You can also see the undertray is dry in the middle with the oily patches either side. (I did wipe them down before the pic)
At no time did i see any water / anti-freeze. I even recall checking the the expansion tank as I was unsure about the clear oily liquid initially.
I read this;
Gear oil cooling
To ensure a long gearbox service life, use is again made of two coolers:
Water-to-oil cooler
After starting the engine, the oil starts to flow in the area of the water-to-oil cooler. As the coolant in the water circuit warms up more quickly, the gear oil thus also attains its operating temperature sooner.
Air-to-oil cooler
The air-to-oil cooler additionally fitted in the circuit maintains the temperature at an optimum level when increased power is required.
Where's the Water-to-oil cooler?
A bit of a ramble i know but I'm struggling to understand how I could get three leaks all at once. I though maybe i'd a stone come up and go through oil cooler and rad but then there's the condenser between the cooler and rad isn't there?? Has it just been a perfect storm?
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It's in the oil filter housing. It's a common leaking point because of a stupid cheapo plastic tube that's used. It's a biatch of a job to get to. There are some ebay sellers selling aluminium replacements.
I personally can't see how your rad is involved. I would probably want a second opinion at this point.
The oil spotting could be weeping rocker cover gaskets. They could have been like that for yonks.
I personally can't see how your rad is involved. I would probably want a second opinion at this point.
The oil spotting could be weeping rocker cover gaskets. They could have been like that for yonks.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
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