Startup Rattle Resolution....

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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by R8GXR » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:38 pm

Shoppinit wrote:I'm being a spaz. Both sides of the oil cooler go to the oil filter body.

According to the diagram it's the side that's closest to the filter that is the exit from the cooler.
That would have been interesting laying under the car and wondering which line to attack. Il take it that's the right side of the cooler ie offside in the UK.

Any idea if its temp valve blocked on the feed side (near side) ?

And where is this page of all knowledge as on er in doors iPad and its not as easy as my laptop.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by R8GXR » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:38 pm

Cheers by the way for hoping out.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by Colinurquhart » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:36 pm

Audi should've made the tensioner spring loaded, I think this would've eliminated the problem.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:27 am

Left side of the car as you look at it from the front. IIRC that's where the filter is.

Can't find the training manual in Footlong's repository. Odd, I'm sure it was there. Download it from here:

http://www.s4-mtm.com/images/RS6-C5StudyGuide.pdf

Page 13. Don't see any valves of any kind anywhere near the cooler.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:43 am

Might be worth changing your oil retention valves, too. That can cause noise valve gear.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by R8GXR » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:31 pm

Cheers for the link, very usefull! Oil is new and of the specification asked for. Was going to run it for 500miles then replace it to give it a flush so I know where I am with it.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by R8GXR » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:14 pm

Shoppinit wrote:Left side of the car as you look at it from the front. IIRC that's where the filter is.

Can't find the training manual in Footlong's repository. Odd, I'm sure it was there. Download it from here:

http://www.s4-mtm.com/images/RS6-C5StudyGuide.pdf

Page 13. Don't see any valves of any kind anywhere near the cooler.
Pg 24 references a thermostatic valve although talking to Merlins today I will still need to purchase their EPC valve to ensure higher than tickover pressure is stored ready for a fresh re-start.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:03 am

Yes, you are right. It turns out there is a thermostat inside the oil filter housing. Begs the question of what happens when it fails...
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by Shoppinit » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:31 am

There's no part number for the oil temp regulator. You have to buy the whole oil filter bracket which contains it.

*But* the RS4 B5 oil filter bracket is the same part number and you can get the oil temp regulator separately for that. Interesting.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by grizz » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:49 pm

The rs6 regulator is available separately ..
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by JCviggen » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:06 am

Shoppinit wrote:Yes, you are right. It turns out there is a thermostat inside the oil filter housing. Begs the question of what happens when it fails...
Makes me wonder if mine is working properly. If I look at my throttle a few times oil temp will go above 90 and take ages to come back down. After 1 or 2 short accels it will settle around 100C and stay there. I also hit ~140C on the gauge 2/3rds through a lap of the Nurburgring...
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by Shoppinit » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:58 am

Interesting. I wonder how you could test it. Does your oil cooler get hot? Difficult to say because you've got ATF circulating in there, also. I can't find any information on when it's supposed to open / close etc. I suspect that it's quite a low opening temp.

Might be worth replacing just in case. It's a £50 bit though.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by R8GXR » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:14 pm

£50 for the cooler?
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by Shoppinit » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:04 pm

No, the thermostat.
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Re: Startup Rattle Resolution....

Post by R8GXR » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:20 pm

Ah right... but £1500 to fit the dame thing if getting to the filter is anything to go by!
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