Gearbox again.

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Gearbox again.

Post by DrB » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:41 pm

I have owned and cared for my 6 for 7 years now (i't's a 2003) and the car has now done over 120 000. Obviously I am a little worried about the life expectancy of the gearbox. I have noticed recently that it has been a little more 'cluncky' when changing up and especially down from first and second gear. There are no problems changing at any other time. However when sitting at a roundabout today the car failed to engage first from neutral. I required to move the gearstick through it's range and then it engaged.

Has anyone experienced this before, or have any ideas what the problem might be,

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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by imacool » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:17 pm

No idea mate.
When did you have gearbox fluid change? It may be ATF low level, or some electric issues.
Any warning lights on the dashboard?
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by DrB » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:27 pm

The gearbox was serviced a couple of years ago.
There are no warning lights.

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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:11 am

Could be a bad F125 switch.

Or low ATF.

Or a valve body / solenoid fault.
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by Simon T » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:30 am

There's no warning lights for ATF so always start with it.
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Re: Gearbox again - help!

Post by DrB » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:56 am

Just driven to work. I was playing around in 1st and 2nd gear and the car entered, what I think, is 'safe mode'. I had to restart the engine to continue. Is that possible? Still no warning lights. Is this going to be expensive....should I panick sell? Help!
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by amanda1 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:02 am

I suspect it maybe the gearbox on the way out ......... Best thing you can do is get it to a good auto gear box specialist to give the once over as they will be able to tell you if there is a fault or not.
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by Mr Footlong » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:03 am

May be being a moron (likely) but surprised that nobody has asked if you have run Vagcom on the car yet? I can't do without it these days - http://www.gendan.co.uk/product_VCHU.html

Plug it in to the connector in the Driver's footwell. With the car on igniton mode (not started) select Auto Scan, select the 4B A6 chassis if memory serves, start and wait for a few mins for all the checks to complete. The only special thing I do is turn the radio off and the climate control while it is running.

/Edit, was typing this while he posted that the box had toasted itself a bit more but my question is still valid.
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:27 pm

Yeah, you kinda assume that if he had a Vagcom he'd have stated it.

Now that the box has gone into limp there'll definitely be a code stored.
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by DrB » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:41 pm

I don't have a Vagcom adaptor.

Has anyone experienced a true gearbox failure or what would be the symptoms?
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by bakustax » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:01 pm

Banging between 1st and 2nd are the most obvious symptoms that the box is on the way out...don't know why but this seems to be the first signs that something is wrong...get a fluid change...won't hurt...mine had a massive slip like your’s taking off from lights...got the fluid changed and all has been well since...12 months ago

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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by DrB » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:34 am

I had the error code read and it stated: Gear monitoring ratio error. Any thoughts?
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by Shoppinit » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:38 am

Yes. It's not electrical then (almost certainly). Either low ATF, problem with the ATF pump and valve body or your clutch packs are toast. Unless it's low ATF then you are probably looking at a new box. :(

ATF level check is the first place to start. If the level is OK then you'll need to do some diagnostics to eliminate electrical problems, no matter how unlikely. Last thing you want to do is pull the box because of a bad sensor.
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by DrB » Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:19 pm

I have sorted the problem for the moment, but I'm now afraid of similar problems in the future. It may be time to say goodbye! It's a shame because this car is hard to beat. How do you replace a car like this. It still drives so well.
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Re: Gearbox again.

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:01 am

How did you sort the problem?
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