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fault codes torque converter

Post by m888rsy » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:16 pm

hi
a friend of mine has a c5 rs 6 and is getting the odd bang now and again so i Vag Com'd it and came up with these codes

p0741 or 17125 torque converter stuck

p0711 or 17095 tranmission fluid temp high sporadic

the cars recently had a new oil cooler and pipes fitted at the stealers,i was thinking maybe they havent topped the fluid correctly or it may need a gearbox oil change?the car doesnt really show any signs of slipping and any help would be appreciated?

thanks
mike

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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by bilko1 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:53 pm

Drive at 50mph in 5th on an incline then accelerate (not floor it) smoothly, if the revs jump up 200 or more then the converter is on its way out / slipping. The rev counter should match the speedo and not jump up if the converter is locked. I pinched this from the American RS6 forum so if it's wrong blame them :beerchug:
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by amanda1 » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:25 am

mine slips and bAngs with no code but I know it's the Tc o. the way out
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by bilko1 » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:54 am

amanda1 wrote:mine slips and bAngs with no code but I know it's the Tc o. the way out
Nothing to do with all that torque then :biggrin3: I think you deserve an award for destroying a new torque converter in such a quick time / distance :bowdown:
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:56 am

bilko1 wrote:Drive at 50mph in 5th on an incline then accelerate (not floor it) smoothly, if the revs jump up 200 or more then the converter is on its way out / slipping. The rev counter should match the speedo and not jump up if the converter is locked. I pinched this from the American RS6 forum so if it's wrong blame them :beerchug:
I'm not sure if that's the best way of testing it. If the TC unlocks (as it would normally when the load exceeds a certain point) then you will get that rise in revs.

What you need to know is whether the TCU is asking for the TC to stay closed, but it's slipping anyway. Can't do that without a vagcom.

Amanda, surely you're talking about your old TC? I hope...
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:58 am

Of course, it could be a problem of low ATF. Only one way to find that out.
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by m888rsy » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:52 am

Hi
There are no signs of slipping just a thud when slowing when it gears down?
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:19 am

If they changed the oil cooler and didn't top up the ATF then the gearbox will be low on fluid. That's very naughty of them if that's the case.

Change the ATF and filter. It might help. Or it might make the problem more apparent, depending on what it is and how far gone.

Still, better to know than to not know.
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by m888rsy » Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:41 pm

Hi
Thanks for the info,how much does a gearbox oil change cost?has anybody had the same symptoms with low oil level or poor Oil quality?
Thanks
Mike

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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by amanda1 » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:48 pm

Shoppinit wrote:[

Amanda, surely you're talking about your old TC? I hope...
nope my Tc was rebuilt when the engine work was done in march.................... I have bust it again!!!! :FIREdevil: Good job I have something very special sat in my boot awaiting fitment 
Can anyone guess what it is????? :assflash: :assflash:
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Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:36 pm

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I'm sure it'll be... ace. :assflash:
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by amanda1 » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:03 pm

Hahaha :assflash: It certainly will be :bigblink: 11th July is an ace day for tc's :bowdown:
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Re: fault codes torque converter

Post by MoRS6+ » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:36 pm

m888rsy wrote:hi
a friend of mine has a c5 rs 6 and is getting the odd bang now and again so i vag com'd it and came up with these codes

p0741 or 17125 torque converter stuck

p0711 or 17095 tranmission fluid temp high sporadic

the cars recently had a new oil cooler and pipes fitted at the stealers,i was thinking maybe they havent topped the fluid correctly or it may need a gearbox oil change?the car doesnt really show any signs of slipping and any help would be appreciated?

thanks
mike
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Could be low transmission fluid. If you're mate is near you (Manchester?) then you're not a million miles away from Grizz at Unit20 in Cheshire (unit20.org). They'd be able to check it for you and top-up/service as necessary. If things have gotten worse since you posted this, then Unit20 also offer a collection service. They have a very good reputation on here.

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