What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

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What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by kwack » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:39 am

Anything where you do not use OEM parts and makes it more attractive to thieves apparently according to my Insurance Co.

That includes air filters, brake pads, ARBs???

Does this sound a bit daft or am I missing something.

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by Golfather » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:02 am

Anything which is not factory fitted.

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by Shoppinit » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:13 am

If they refuse a claim based on the fact that you use Fram airfilters instead of Bosch then they would probably lose if you took them to court.

If you use an air filter that is supposed to enhance performance, then they could argue that you have violated the T&C by changing the characteristics of the vehicle and hence the risk, and you would probably be in the poo.

It gets silly though, because they could argue that by putting on vreds, to pick an example completely at random ;), then you were increasing the risk of flying off the road and generating a claim ;)
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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by Daveperc » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:29 pm

Anything which materially changes the risk profile for the vehicle.

So obviously any performance enhancing change (tuning, engine/drivetrain mods, enhanced brakes, suspension changes etc) and also any items such as better ICE etc as this will make the car attractive to theives.

Changing the make of tyres (providing they are to the required spec) would not alter the risk.

My adice is always "If you change something, then tell them" - that way they can't argue later

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by kwack » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:59 pm

Seems logical just seems a bit tight being quoted an extra 100 to cover arbs when the guy didn't even know what they were?

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by Daveperc » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:41 pm

Try a different broker/company - I had ARB's last year and no change to premium.

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by Coxall8395 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:53 pm

My ARB's cost me £28.30 in increased premium.

Best £30 I ever spent !!!!

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by rossi46 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:05 pm

Some of the conversations I had with brokers trying to insure mine was laughable ( almost! ). Even the specialists have little clue with the apparent 'tailored service/policies' they're selling. I don't think any of us would complain about paying for a decent product and service, but unfortunately this is hardly ever the case ....

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by bam_bam » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:11 pm

rossi46 wrote:Some of the conversations I had with brokers trying to insure mine was laughable ( almost! ). Even the specialists have little clue with the apparent 'tailored service/policies' they're selling. I don't think any of us would complain about paying for a decent product and service, but unfortunately this is hardly ever the case ....
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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by kwack » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:30 pm

Just taken out my policy but am going to phone around to see if I can get a competitive quote with the ARB on and cancel this one

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by iaingbrown » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:12 am

I 'fessed up to Miltek, gearbox remap, coilovers and antirollbars. Insured with Elephant. Didn't push up premium much. They wrote and said the underwriters asked what the antirollbars were for. Not really having much of a clue I said they were to reduce roll. This seemed sufficient and heard no more......

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by Ian_C » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:21 pm

Daft isn't it. In the UK, insurance companies won't use their common sense and start charging for things that make no difference to the risk - or theoretically even reduce risk! Upgraded brakes are an example. Winter tyres are another - fact that in some countries in Europe winter tyres are a legal requirement you are not insured if you crash in winter without them!

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Re: What constitutes a Mod in Insurance eys?

Post by Daveperc » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:55 pm

Hi Ian

Nice try re the brakes, but I'm afraid Insurance co's aren't that naive!!

Logic goes- brakes fitted by manufacturer are adequate for normal driving. Therefore if someone needs bigger brakes they must be braking harder, from higher speed, than normal = higher risk!

Similar logic applies to almost any performance mod (eg ARB's).

Logic on cosmetic mods is similar, but relates to the type of driver who is likely to pimp their ride....

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