missing can signal

[mattyb]

hi i have been lurking around this informative site for a while now and making good use of the info on here. but now i have a problem i cant seem to find the answer to. i have started to fit the a6 rnse to my b5 rs4 and i have lost my can signal, before i started the car would come up clean when i ran vagcom now i would need to destroy a small forest were i to print them off i think most of these probs are related but i i am lost do these modules just pack up or have i been a muppet any help would go down very well
thanks matt
VAG-COM Version: Release 704.1
Data version: 20071016

Saturday,22,March,2008,18:37:51:01349

Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77

VIN: WUAZZZ8DZ1N901507
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 078-907-551-AZA.LBL
Part No: 8D0 907 551 F
Component: 2.7l V6/5VT G 0001
Coding: 04711
Shop #: WSC 00000
WUAZZZ8DZ1N901507 AUZ7Z0Y1550788

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8D0-907-389.LBL
Part No: 8D0 907 389 E
Component: ABS/ESP allrad D46
Coding: 04395
Shop #: WSC 02325

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No: 8D0 820 043 P
Component: A4 KLIMAAUTOMAT D58
Coding: 00061
Shop #: WSC 06435

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.LBL
Part No: 8D0 959 655 F
Component: Airbag Front+Kopf 1001
Coding: 01306
Shop #: WSC 02325

1 Fault Found:
01228 - Airbag Cut-Off Switch for Passenger Side (E224)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8D0-920-xxx-17.LBL
Part No: 8D0 920 981 X
Component: B5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D13
Coding: 00462
Shop #: WSC 00001
WUAZZZ8DZ1N901507 AUZ7Z0Y1550788

3 Faults Found:
01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01304 - Radio
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01311 - Information Data Bus
37-00 - Faulty

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: None
Part No: Bitte Adress
Component: e 17 eingeben

No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred

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Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels: 8D0-862-257.LBL
Part No: 8D0 862 257 E
Component: CV-Pump, Alarm, RC D17
Coding: 15178
Shop #: WSC 06435

1 Fault Found:
01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
35-00 - -

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.LBL
Part No SW: 4B0 035 192 P HW: 4B0 035 192 P
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H44 0550
Coding: 0309113
Shop #: WSC 00857

10 Faults Found:
02005 - Coding Pin
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 28
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:27

00856 - Radio Antenna
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 242
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2127.01.01
Time: 00:04:13

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 1402
Clock: 12:15

00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
007 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100111
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 243
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2127.01.01
Time: 00:04:13

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 101
Clock: 00:04

00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 28
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:27

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 101
Clock: 00:04

00878 - Connection to Speaker Front Left
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 175
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:23

00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 175
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:23

00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 248
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2127.01.01
Time: 00:04:34

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 243
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2127.01.01
Time: 00:14:31

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 175
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:32

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 11011011
Bin. Bits: 11

01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 254


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Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 4B0-951-173.LBL
Part No: 4B0 951 173
Component: Innenraumueberw. D03
Coding: 00102
Shop #: WSC 06435

2 Faults Found:
01377 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Left (G170)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01378 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Right (G171)
27-00 - Implausible Signal

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.LBL
Part No: 4B0 907 357
Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER D004
Coding: 00012
Shop #: WSC 06435

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.LBL
Part No SW: 4B0 035 192 P HW: 4B0 035 192 P
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H44 0550
Coding: 0309113
Shop #: WSC 00857

10 Faults Found:
02005 - Coding Pin
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 28
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:27

00856 - Radio Antenna
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 242
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2127.01.01
Time: 00:04:13

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 1402
Clock: 12:15

00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
007 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100111
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 243
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2127.01.01
Time: 00:04:13

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 101
Clock: 00:04

00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 28
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:27

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 101
Clock: 00:04

00878 - Connection to Speaker Front Left
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 175
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:23

00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 175
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:23

00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 248
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2127.01.01
Time: 00:04:34

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 243
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2127.01.01
Time: 00:14:31

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 175
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.01.10
Time: 12:22:32

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 11011011
Bin. Bits: 11

01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 254


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[PetrolDave]

Clear all the fault codes - you get a lot of intermittent ones when you do the RNS-E install - and see which ones come back.

Those are the only ones you need to investigate.

[mattyb]

Thanks PetrolDave I went to the car to clear the codes and noticed some condensation on the screen! on investigation i find the drain holes in the bulkhead are blocked ive cleaned them out and looked behind the carpet in the nsf footwell it has the smallest bit of damp. When I look on Vag 19CAN Gateway it says there is no response from controller. Has the water done a module in? and do you know where it is located? Sorry for all the questions but I think I could quickly get out of my depth here !!!!! Thanks again Matt

[PetrolDave]

T When I look on Vag 19CAN Gateway it says there is no response from controller.

Not surprising - the B5 doesn't have a CAN gateway (nor does the B6 or B7).

[mattyb]

Ok this clearly shows that i am out of my depth and a true muppet !!! i will try to explain where im at i have a kuftec rnse to symph1 adapter and the double aerial leads. It powers up with the key off input the code and away you go but turn on the key and its keeps asking for the code if you turn the key off and take it out it turns the unit off but it dose not illuminate with the sidelights in the car this lead me to think there was something wrong with my can signals. Im sure its only something silly but for me this is a major pain !!
many thanks matt (muppet)

[Virdee Autos]

You need to wire in a CAN signal from the instrument cluster....You can either find the CAN wires, tap into them, and bring new wires to the RNS-E, or alternatively swap the leads at the grey connector (as far as i can remember), and then again swap them on the RNS-E side.

And even after than you will have trouble to input the code, due to the CAN on the B5.

Waht i've found is, enter the code, and then it will return back to the screen. Then leave it at this screen for a good 5-10mins, and then enter once again, and it should be ok then.

[mattyb]

Hes only got it working a true result its fair to say. The only issue now seems to be a lack of radio reception, which before the rnse was top drawer so this seems odd, is there anything a muppet could have done to cause this. Thanks again for the help guys matt

[Virdee Autos]

You might have a dodgy antenna adapter.

It might be a PITA, but connect the Symphony unit, and see if radio reception is back to normal.