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Re: Advanced Key

Post by RS5 Owner » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:26 pm

If anyone is searching for info on the advanced key and finds this thread then, now that I have the car, let me say that Ian_C was right in saying there is an option that enables/disables whether the door opens by just touching the door handle.
So no need for faraday pouch, steering lock etc.

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by Eddie555 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:43 pm

I covered this in another thread. But yes you can just turn off convenience key unlocking function via the MMI. It will still lock by touching the exterior touch pads which is a bonus.
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Re: Advanced Key

Post by Gastro » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:48 pm

Just get a faraday cage pouch to put your keys in overnight.
Cheap as chips, and they work.

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by Terminator_X » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:06 pm

You don't need to though as you can turn off auto unlock.

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by graeme4130 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:12 pm

Terminator_X wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:50 pm
rjwojcik wrote:Yeap, I've slso no interest in Advanced Key. There must be a way of coding Advanced Key off.
A chap on another forum coded out the door opening element, all else works as before.

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You can turn that off with the MMI. I've done it on mine as the door thing does my head in as you're never convinced it's actually locked
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Re: Advanced Key

Post by MikeBent » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:39 pm

Not posted for a loooong time but I have been lurking....

This thread has been very interesting to me as I tend to worry.
I initially bought a Faraday Key Pouch but getting the key in and out (and remembering to do so) is a real pia. I'm just lazy - and forgetful.

Biggest worry was not so much when the car is parked at home, but leaving the car on a Restaurant Car Park and have some t**t relay it from there while I'm inside.

So I've have had the Open With Convenience Key option un-ticked for most of the 2 months I've had the car and this makes me 'feel' a little better.
The only pain now is having to press the unlock button on the key. It's like being back in the 00's......

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by RS5 Owner » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:57 pm

MikeBent wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:39 pm
So I've have had the Open With Convenience Key option un-ticked for most of the 2 months I've had the car and this makes me 'feel' a little better.
The only pain now is having to press the unlock button on the key. It's like being back in the 00's......
At the moment, there are only 2 choices 1) open the door with the keyless entry or 2) disable it and use the remote button.

The fact is the current implementation can be relayed with kit costing £15 as demonstrated at the white hat security conference in 2017 by Qihoo.
In their report, Qihoo describe how the technology can be made more secure but Audi use off the shelf chips that cost pennies (as do other car manufacturers) so the system is likely to stay relatively insecure.
I expect at some point, the Thatcham security test will include relay attacks on the keyless entry, and when that happens, all the manufacturers will make their systems more secure but until then, sadly just the 2 choices.
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Re: Advanced Key

Post by Kaine19 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:05 am

Just reading up on this. The misses 2018 SQ5 is keyless start but to actually get in the car its the old system with buttons. Its not keyless to get it which is better for us. Do audi do a few different keys or is this just the standard key now and the advanced key is fully keyless?

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by RS5 Owner » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:17 pm

Kaine19 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:05 am
Just reading up on this. The misses 2018 SQ5 is keyless start but to actually get in the car its the old system with buttons. Its not keyless to get it which is better for us. Do audi do a few different keys or is this just the standard key now and the advanced key is fully keyless?
All cars are keyless start regardless of what options you have. The option "Advanced Key" is about unlocking the doors/boot.
"Advanced Key" (sometimes called convenience key) is Audis keyless entry system.
Keyless entry systems are not totally secure but Audi allow the unlocking function to be disabled so I needn't have worried.
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Re: Advanced Key

Post by cuttsy » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:33 pm

With the reliability or consistency of mine makes it's difficult to get into even when you do have the key! Seems to have a mind of its own when it wants to work or not!

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by Kaine19 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:26 pm

Ahhhh ok, cheers

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by PieterZ » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:26 am

I disabled it.
Half the time I drive there's things in the boot I take out.
So then I close with the bootlid button.
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Re: Advanced Key

Post by Terminator_X » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:37 am

Bootlid lock works really well agreed.

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by Eddie555 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:09 pm

PieterZ wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:26 am
I disabled it.
Half the time I drive there's things in the boot I take out.
So then I close with the bootlid button.
You do realise you have only turned the “unlock” feature off. You can still “lock” the car via touching any of the touch pads on the handles.
Current ride’s
Q7 Floret Silver Black Edition On 22’s (2018)
Renault Clio 172 Cup. (Babe the track pig)

Previous rides
SQ5 Glacier white( 2016 65reg)
RS6 avant C7 Daytona Grey 2015 facelift. The one I waved goodbye to!!
2013: Q7 3.0 tdi s/line plus ibis white (13reg)
2012: S5 cabriolet glacier white (62 reg)
2011: RS4 saloon B7. Avus (57 reg)

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Re: Advanced Key

Post by PieterZ » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:00 pm

Correct. Only on opening the car you need to press the button on the keyfob.
Not really a bother for the added security.
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