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Re: Ordered one

Post by AndyL » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:43 pm

nastro azzurro wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:34 pm
Good luck for Saturday!
What spec / colour have you gone for mate?
I still haven’t made my mind up on a few things as yet.
Sonoma Green with black pack

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Re: Ordered one

Post by AndyL » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:45 pm

rjwojcik wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:06 pm
AndyL wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:22 pm
I didnt take finance, but i dont think that affected the discount.
Did you get as far as discussing Audi financing and whether you could get more discount?
The price was the same regardless of whether I took finance or not.

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Re: Ordered one

Post by dans » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:25 pm

AndyL wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:43 pm
nastro azzurro wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:34 pm
Good luck for Saturday!
What spec / colour have you gone for mate?
I still haven’t made my mind up on a few things as yet.
Sonoma Green with black pack
Great choice :thumbs:

I’m very pleased with mine, such a great car for daily cruising and b-road fun!! The green with black pack attracts a lot of positive comments, many of whom didn’t like it in pictures and are surprised they like it in person !

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Re: Ordered one

Post by Terminator_X » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:37 pm

I had a demo in green / silver which was a bit meh, with black though it is fabulous.

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Re: Ordered one

Post by Graeme4130 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:56 pm

I’m not sure about you lot, but mine seems to attract a lot more people wanting a race than my b8 did ?
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Re: Ordered one

Post by Terminator_X » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:29 pm

I was overtaken today in a 30 limit by a battered black Astra absolutely flat out yet still took about 10s to get past. Absolutely pissed myself.

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Re: Ordered one

Post by Evil Derboy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 pm

cuttsy wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:24 pm
Not sure you can compare the 5 to the 4 given the press reviews for the two cars, but time will tell. Supply and demand will influence the price and that can also be governed by outside factors such as consumer confidence.

Mine was a 3.5% discount in the end, no trade in and Audi finance on a pcp. Ordered Dec 2017.
Sorry, but what have the press reviews got to do with it? Reviews for the RS5 have been generally positive save for the usual steering/back-end dynamics comparison to AMG and M. Reviews for the Avant have been less critical because for some reason estate car owners aren't as demanding when it comes to driving because they value luggage space more and are prepared to make a compromise. The whole thing is a nonsense if you ask me but I would have thought that demand for a coupe would outstrip that of an estate in the performance car segment so still think that the comparison in terms of discounts will be comparable.

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Re: Ordered one

Post by Terminator_X » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:11 pm

Not sure about that fella, the reviewers have been "drivers" and reviewing it on that basis. Certainly not because of the boot space.

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Re: Ordered one

Post by Markp » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:17 pm

Evil Derboy wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 pm
cuttsy wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:24 pm
Not sure you can compare the 5 to the 4 given the press reviews for the two cars, but time will tell. Supply and demand will influence the price and that can also be governed by outside factors such as consumer confidence.

Mine was a 3.5% discount in the end, no trade in and Audi finance on a pcp. Ordered Dec 2017.
Sorry, but what have the press reviews got to do with it? Reviews for the RS5 have been generally positive save for the usual steering/back-end dynamics comparison to AMG and M. Reviews for the Avant have been less critical because for some reason estate car owners aren't as demanding when it comes to driving because they value luggage space more and are prepared to make a compromise. The whole thing is a nonsense if you ask me but I would have thought that demand for a coupe would outstrip that of an estate in the performance car segment so still think that the comparison in terms of discounts will be comparable.
Reviews for the RS4 are better due to better dynamics - in particular turn in - not lower expectations. It is the better driver's car. And, having driven both, I agree with the reviews. Have you driven the RS4?
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Re: Ordered one

Post by Evil Derboy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:32 pm

Markp wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:17 pm
Evil Derboy wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 pm
cuttsy wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:24 pm
Not sure you can compare the 5 to the 4 given the press reviews for the two cars, but time will tell. Supply and demand will influence the price and that can also be governed by outside factors such as consumer confidence.

Mine was a 3.5% discount in the end, no trade in and Audi finance on a pcp. Ordered Dec 2017.
Sorry, but what have the press reviews got to do with it? Reviews for the RS5 have been generally positive save for the usual steering/back-end dynamics comparison to AMG and M. Reviews for the Avant have been less critical because for some reason estate car owners aren't as demanding when it comes to driving because they value luggage space more and are prepared to make a compromise. The whole thing is a nonsense if you ask me but I would have thought that demand for a coupe would outstrip that of an estate in the performance car segment so still think that the comparison in terms of discounts will be comparable.
Reviews for the RS4 are better due to better dynamics, not lower expectations. It is the better driver's car.
That's not what I've been reading and I can't see how having a bigger boot gives it better driving dynamics. It's the same platform, same engine same interior and same running gear, but with a different bodystyle. I've driven both cars and could not see, hear nor feel any discernable difference in the driving experience between them. I went with the RS5 because I thought it looked nicer and I don't need an estate sized boot. Plenty folk will feel the opposite way and go for the RS4, but it's basically the same car. My own humble opinion is that many reviewers are basing reviews of both cars on a faulty premise that if you buy a coupe you want/expect a certain type of driving experience whereas if you buy an estate it get's allowances for being a daily driver and a load-lugger.

Case in point, Top Gear which slated the RS5 in a head-to-head with the C63 and M4 says this of the RS4:

"This is where the new RS4 starts to ripen. A four-door estate car with a 505-litre boot is obviously a lot more likely to be transporting valuables and irreplaceables – lifestyle equipment, pets, children – than a sleek two-door coupe. So it’s going to be used in workaday scenarios, and have to excel in a different skillset. In a coupe, you want some exuberance, some fizz, as a reward for buying the serious drivers’ car."

Regardless of which one you like best, it comes down to looks and/or function but the driving experience is essentially the same regardless of what some annoying kids on YouTube have to say about it. On track they my be different but to be honest if you track your cars then the M and AMGs are a better proposition anyway.

Regardless, to get back on topic, discount levels aren't going to be dictated by a couple of reviews saying one car turn's slightly better than the other.

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Re: Ordered one

Post by Markp » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:45 pm

I will be the first to admit that my decision was mainly swayed by the looks and practicality of the avant - I prefer both - but there are subtly different to drive too and the RS4 pipped the 5 for me here too. And many of the reviewers in the review thread on here. As this hack highlights the difference in feel...

"comes down to simple physics. The RS4 runs on lower profile tyres with less sidewall flex than the RS5, it’s 60mm longer in the wheelbase, is 18mm and 13mm narrower in front and rear track respectively, has a marginally higher centre of gravity and instead of the RS5’s 45 percent rearwards weight distribution, the wagon hefts a mere 43 percent at the rear. This means a rear end that’s a little keener to play when unweighted and a more benign nature when it does slip into a few degrees of dangle."

Though whether you believe that (eg differing tyre sidewalls) or that it makes any difference....

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Re: Ordered one

Post by cuttsy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:13 pm

Evil Derboy wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 pm
cuttsy wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:24 pm
Not sure you can compare the 5 to the 4 given the press reviews for the two cars, but time will tell. Supply and demand will influence the price and that can also be governed by outside factors such as consumer confidence.

Mine was a 3.5% discount in the end, no trade in and Audi finance on a pcp. Ordered Dec 2017.
Sorry, but what have the press reviews got to do with it? Reviews for the RS5 have been generally positive save for the usual steering/back-end dynamics comparison to AMG and M. Reviews for the Avant have been less critical because for some reason estate car owners aren't as demanding when it comes to driving because they value luggage space more and are prepared to make a compromise. The whole thing is a nonsense if you ask me but I would have thought that demand for a coupe would outstrip that of an estate in the performance car segment so still think that the comparison in terms of discounts will be comparable.
The dealer confirmed that initial sales of the 5 weren't that great hence the discounts, I believe this to be contributed to by the initial response by the press. Time will tell and people interpret reviews in ways they wish. I am not saying it isn't as good a car, just my observations.

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Re: Ordered one

Post by cuttsy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:22 pm

graeme4130 wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:56 pm
I’m not sure about you lot, but mine seems to attract a lot more people wanting a race than my b8 did ?
Yes definitely! I was travelling along the M3 yesterday morning with a AMG 43 coupe came flying up behind me tailgating, I then let him past when he got in-front he flashed his hazards then about half a mile on he pulled inside slowed down and let me past, then when I pulled over to fleet services (as my daughter was about to be sick!) he passed me again and I could see him with his phone either filming or taking photos of the car.

Had several drivers being quite aggressive in driving style. Another Merc driver this morning at 6am 2 inches from my bumper weaving across the road in a 40 and I wasn't slouching along either.

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Re: Ordered one

Post by SSerx_R » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:42 pm

The RS4 and RS5 have different chassis set-up. This is not my opinion, it comes from the internal Audi training courses.
While the 2017 RS5 is softer, the RS4 is more precise and stiffer. As far as I know, the 2018 RS5 probably has another set-up, more agressive to compete against the old M4 and new C63.
The sword points of Audi Sport (Audi Quattro before) are the Avants and they setup them better than other RS cars.

Nowadys we can find about 15-18 RS4 reviews, most of them with a previous RS5 review. They all say that the RS4 is better than the RS5 in terms of driving, even weighting more than a 100kg less. And they also say that RS4 is louder from inside, but it is only becouse of the boot, is normal.

It doesnt mean that the RS5 is a bad car, it isn´t. But it is being look as a GT car like the BMW 6series or the S7, not as a sport car.
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Re: Ordered one

Post by Graeme4130 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:05 pm

I've driven both the Rs5 and Rs4 back to back, and they're pretty different in terms of driving dynamics to be honest.
It's not like there's one stand out difference, but lots of subtle differences make them not really alike.
The Rs5 sounds better though, so I think they've put a sportier sports exhaust on it as expected that's what the coupe market wanted
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Gone - 11/06 B7 RS4 Avant - black/black (Daily drive & kids taxi)
Gone - 05/13 B8 RS4 Avant - Suzuka grey (Daily drive & kids taxi)
Gone - 01/14 B8 RS5 Coupe - Short term car
Gone - 09/14 B8 RS4 Avant - Misano Red/Ceramics (Daily drive & kids taxi)

Current - 04/18 B9 Rs4 Nardo Grey
ZX10R Race bike - 210bhp and a few skid marks on the seat ;)

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