EBC Redstuff pads

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EBC Redstuff pads

Post by RS4John » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:13 pm

So the next one on the list is to install EBC Redstuff disc pads -

I've used these previously (RSQ3) and experienced several benefits:

1) Increased initial 'grab', better performance when very hot
2) Less (much) dust, washes off easily
3) Polishes the disc rotor surface rather than wearing it away - the RS4 front discs are £595 a pair on Ebay

Right now my '4 has just over 9,000 miles on it and the there is already a discernible lip on the edge of the discs so the writing is already on the proverbial wall - this will be needing discs and pads by the 2nd service unless I take action soon. Maybe others have less wear - this was a Press car so will have definitely have had a rough 1st 6,000 miles.

I called EBC UK when I got the car last October and they said it will be 6 months before we have pads...OK. Over on the Audi-Sport forum a member in Australia dealt with a different EBC product manager and discovered that pads are actually shared with multiple Audi models:

"I emailed the contact in EBC I had previously been conversing with, who today responded, in part:-
Front pads:
DP42277R (Yellowstuff)
DP32277C (Redstuff)

Rear pads:
DP42254R (Yellowstuff)
DP32254C (Redstuff)..."
Further to this and after seeking clarification, an EBC Manager has advised, in part:-
"We have listed only DP42277R in yellow for all the cars below

S4, S5, RS4, RS5, Q7, SQ7 & A8

Yellow is better than red in all eventualities, Cold hot or moving slowly.
We have not listed red for SUV type cars as it lacks friction if not driving briskly
We have only listed red on the A8 because these are more luxury type vehicles and maybe most drivers would like the lack of brake dust relative to the yellow on these cars.

No Porsche uses this latest Audi pad as far as we know so far"

Bottom line - all these models share the same pad, so effectively are available in Redstuff & Yellowstuff. "


So I have ordered front and rears from the EBC Shop in the UK at a fraction over £171 delivered - I'll organise getting them fitted next week and feed back on the results.
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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by Terminator_X » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:22 pm

*cough*

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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by RS4John » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:28 pm

Thanks - they look gorgeous TX...I'm afraid to ask the investment required!
Misano, lunar silver seats and headliner, 20" Edge wheels, matrix headlights, memory driver seat, heated rear seats, TPM, pano roof, Packs: extended LED/storage inc load rails/comfort and sound/tour/parking assistance. Phone box, HUD, red calipers, sports exhaust, DRC, 174mph upgrade. OBD11 mods: headlamp washers disabled, SoundAktor set to Off.

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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by Terminator_X » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:31 pm

RS4John wrote:Thanks - they look gorgeous TX...I'm afraid to ask the investment required!
Ha ha don't ask! I hate the brakes on the RS's, real shame that Audi don't offer factory upgrades^.

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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by RS4John » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:14 am

I kind of know what you mean re the stock brakes - the previous ride had the wavy discs and 8 pot callipers and still ranks as the best road car stoppers I've ever used. I'm sure I read somewhere that Audi found them in the RS6 parts bin. I ought to keep an eye on Ebay and see if I could buy a pair to offer up. I'm hopeful the Redstuffs will help towards improving the stopping ability - it's not like there are 'bad', just not as good as they could be.
Misano, lunar silver seats and headliner, 20" Edge wheels, matrix headlights, memory driver seat, heated rear seats, TPM, pano roof, Packs: extended LED/storage inc load rails/comfort and sound/tour/parking assistance. Phone box, HUD, red calipers, sports exhaust, DRC, 174mph upgrade. OBD11 mods: headlamp washers disabled, SoundAktor set to Off.

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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by Covkiller » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:27 am

You buy a £70k + car and fit cheap sh1t discs and pads to it :drink:
You may as well cut 4 pieces of wood to shape paint them red, go to you local engineers and get some mild steel disks made up and fit them, they'd probably perform better than EBC.
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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by RS4John » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:13 pm

Clearly speaking from experience then Covkiller? For the record it's an £80k car though I didn't pay anything even remotely close to that... I do like the RS4 B7...never driven one though, had a couple of B7 Cabs though.
Misano, lunar silver seats and headliner, 20" Edge wheels, matrix headlights, memory driver seat, heated rear seats, TPM, pano roof, Packs: extended LED/storage inc load rails/comfort and sound/tour/parking assistance. Phone box, HUD, red calipers, sports exhaust, DRC, 174mph upgrade. OBD11 mods: headlamp washers disabled, SoundAktor set to Off.

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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by Covkiller » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:09 pm

Yes I once had EBC red stuff pads on my 2.8i Special Capri to my shame (fell for the advertising) and threw them away after a couple of drives, complete sh1t.
Since then owning a Cosworth, E36 M3, Porsche 911, C63 AMG, two RS4's and another E36 M3 I would only recomend fitting quality products, such as the grey RS4 B9 above dressed in AP racing.
RS4 B7, Mugello Blue, K&W V3 & HR ARBs, set up by Centre Gravity, Milltek Valved Non Res & cat bypass pipes, BMC air filter, braided hoses, DOT 5.1, Terraclean, MRC Full Carbon Clean, MRC remap 448PS 477NM, 20" S7 alloys with 4mm spacers & Hawke spigots 66.6 > 57.1, AP Racing front discs.

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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by PieterZ » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:41 pm

I have no issues or complaints with my brakes. Maybe consider a ceramic upgrade?
Stops on a dime and keeps stopping.
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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by Markp » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:59 pm

RS4John wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:13 pm
Clearly speaking from experience then Covkiller? For the record it's an £80k car though I didn't pay anything even remotely close to that... I do like the RS4 B7...never driven one though, had a couple of B7 Cabs though.
I would not touch EBC with a barge pole - and yes I have tried them, albeit on track and not on an Audi. But then I am used to Performance Friction for track work - dusty but very good - and, to be fair, others I have met (not many in my experience) do rate EBC. Look on forums, they get a mixed review.
I actually think the standard brakes are good and wouldn't mess with them but each to their own.

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Re: EBC Redstuff pads

Post by RS4John » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:06 pm

Yeah - balanced view, I've used them before and been very happy, they do come with an abrasive coating now which assists in the bedding in process. Going back 20+ years - Greenstuffs on Saab 900 Turbos...pads used to fall off the backing plates, added a new level of excitement. And yes you find very mixed reviews on the forums. The attraction now is OEM or slightly better performance, negligible disc wear and dust. I'll report back once fitted and bedded in.
Misano, lunar silver seats and headliner, 20" Edge wheels, matrix headlights, memory driver seat, heated rear seats, TPM, pano roof, Packs: extended LED/storage inc load rails/comfort and sound/tour/parking assistance. Phone box, HUD, red calipers, sports exhaust, DRC, 174mph upgrade. OBD11 mods: headlamp washers disabled, SoundAktor set to Off.

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