Slight misfire on B5 RS4

Discuss common aspects of Audi RS and S tuning and modifications
User avatar
TopBear
4th Gear
Posts: 924
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am
Location: Glasgow

Slight misfire on B5 RS4

Post by TopBear » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:05 pm

I picked up my 51 plate RS4 a couple of weeks ago now, and have been getting used to this beastie, which has alledgedly been chipped to 420bhp.

My concern is that there is what seems like a very slight misfire\hunting from the engine, only noticeable at idle, and wondered if this is normal for a 'modded' engine, or is perhaps problems with some of the engine management system?

TIA fellas

User avatar
Nige_RS4
Cruising
Posts: 3264
Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:54 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

RE: Slight misfire on B5 RS4

Post by Nige_RS4 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:02 pm

Definately not normal, even for a modded car! When were the plugs last replaced? Have you had it checked over by a specialist for boost leaks, MAF or BPV failures? Do you know who has chipped it?
https://www.speedcams.co.uk

B5 2.7t S4 - gone
B5 2.7t RS4 - gone
Ed 30 Golf DSG - gone
A5 3.0tdi - gone within 12 months!
S3 2.0 tfsi - 6+ years, but now sold
2018 Golf R 7.5

User avatar
TopBear
4th Gear
Posts: 924
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am
Location: Glasgow

Post by TopBear » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:21 pm

Don't know when the plugs were last done, as the car is on 65K miles, would they be part of the big 40K mile service normally?

Im booked in at Star Performance at the end of the month for them to give it a check over and see what's needing doing. I believe it was chipped by the first owner, but unfortunately I dont know where or when that was.

User avatar
Nige_RS4
Cruising
Posts: 3264
Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:54 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Post by Nige_RS4 » Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:43 am

Plugs should be replaced every 20k miles on an RS4 (not sure what the hand book says)
https://www.speedcams.co.uk

B5 2.7t S4 - gone
B5 2.7t RS4 - gone
Ed 30 Golf DSG - gone
A5 3.0tdi - gone within 12 months!
S3 2.0 tfsi - 6+ years, but now sold
2018 Golf R 7.5

User avatar
quattrosteph
4th Gear
Posts: 710
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:23 pm

Misfire

Post by quattrosteph » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:09 pm

When i buy a car even in a very good condition, i always do a service on it Whenever the service is due: Filters, oil, plugs...If you can do it yourself it doesn't cost you a fortune and you know it is done.
Have it checked by a specialist if you have some problems and while it is on the ramp have a good look under the car to detect any start of corrosion on some parts :wink:
Porsche 996 Turbo S Atlas Grey.
RS4 B7 Avant Sprint Blue. Sold.
RS4 B5 Avus Silver with MRC magic . Sold (Best car ever )
S4 B6 Avant Nogaro blue. Sold
A6 Avant Silver . 2.5 TDI .Sold

User avatar
TopBear
4th Gear
Posts: 924
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am
Location: Glasgow

Post by TopBear » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:22 pm

Are there any technical docs or how do tackle the oil/filter and plugs change on the RS4.

In fact is there any manuals either online/downloadable or in print on maintenance for the B5 RS4?

Cheers guys

User avatar
TopBear
4th Gear
Posts: 924
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am
Location: Glasgow

Post by TopBear » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:02 pm

Had the car checked out yesteday at Star Performance up here in Scotland, and the car has a slight misfire in 3 cyclinders, as well as a faulty MAF meter, (same thing as a MAF sensor I presume).

Got them to replace the MAF there and then, and the car now feels a bit more perkier lower down, and I'm getting them to replace the spark plugs and air filter in a fortnight. I'm sure they said that the RS4 takes platinum plugs, but this seems to be contested on other websites? Does anyone on here have view?

Turns out that the car is putting out 381bhp according to the rolling road diagnostic, and hasnt been chipped as the boost is standard.

Other things needing done is alternator belt is noisy, and needs replaced, and its needing discs and pads all round :(

User avatar
Ruical
2nd Gear
Posts: 138
Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2003 12:36 am
Location: Just south of the arctic circle

Post by Ruical » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:56 am

TopBear wrote:Had the car checked out yesteday at Star Performance :(
Mines just had a few 'Tweaks' done, by Jim and the boys :bigblink:

What a great drive home :FIREdevil:

Can't thank them enough for the excellent quality of work, knowledge and service provided :notworthy:

Cheers,

Andy :thumbs:

User avatar
TopBear
4th Gear
Posts: 924
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am
Location: Glasgow

Post by TopBear » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:38 am

Ruical wrote:
TopBear wrote:Had the car checked out yesteday at Star Performance :(
Mines just had a few 'Tweaks' done, by Jim and the boys :bigblink:
Was your's the Avus silver B5 RS4 with sunroof? .. If so, very nice car mate

User avatar
Doug_S2
Trader (Expired)
Posts: 1756
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:57 pm
Location: Banbury
Contact:

Post by Doug_S2 » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:00 pm

A hunting on idle and misfire could be a leak - and if it is a leak you will run lower boost. Misifres and requested boost can be seen with the diagnostic SW. Some RS4s have had bad coilpacks and/or amplifiers. Use genuine pfr7q plugs or bosch f5dpor on higher power ones.
S2 Coupe : S4 B5 WB : RS6 C5 : S4 B8 : R8 V8 Turbo : Q7 4.2 TDI

http://www.MRCtuning.com
http://www.facebook.com/mrctuning

User avatar
TopBear
4th Gear
Posts: 924
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am
Location: Glasgow

Post by TopBear » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:21 am

Got my car back today after getting the big 'belts' service done as well as rear pads, fronts to get done in a few weeks.
But it's still not idling properly, so Jim's suggested fitting another MAF to eliminate the possibility of a faulty replacement MAF. Next after that is to change coil packs, but i might have a go at swapping a good\bad cyclinder pack around to see if the pack is faulty or the something else.

How hard is it to access\change a coil pack, and is there any (clear) instructions on how to do it.

Cheers

Golich
Top Gear
Posts: 1539
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:28 pm
Location: Aberdeen

Post by Golich » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:06 pm

TopBear wrote:Got my car back today after getting the big 'belts' service done as well as rear pads, fronts to get done in a few weeks.
But it's still not idling properly, so Jim's suggested fitting another MAF to eliminate the possibility of a faulty replacement MAF. Next after that is to change coil packs, but i might have a go at swapping a good\bad cyclinder pack around to see if the pack is faulty or the something else.

How hard is it to access\change a coil pack, and is there any (clear) instructions on how to do it.

Cheers
Are you still struggling with this? Its pretty straight forward to remove the coil packs/plugs etc. I have some pics I can email you if you really need. But if you are reasonably 'handy' you'll manage it no probs.

User avatar
TopBear
4th Gear
Posts: 924
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am
Location: Glasgow

Post by TopBear » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:43 am

Golich wrote:
TopBear wrote:Got my car back today after getting the big 'belts' service done as well as rear pads, fronts to get done in a few weeks.
But it's still not idling properly, so Jim's suggested fitting another MAF to eliminate the possibility of a faulty replacement MAF. Next after that is to change coil packs, but i might have a go at swapping a good\bad cyclinder pack around to see if the pack is faulty or the something else.

How hard is it to access\change a coil pack, and is there any (clear) instructions on how to do it.

Cheers
Are you still struggling with this? Its pretty straight forward to remove the coil packs/plugs etc. I have some pics I can email you if you really need. But if you are reasonably 'handy' you'll manage it no probs.
Yep, I still have the missfire, so any tips\guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

Golich
Top Gear
Posts: 1539
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:28 pm
Location: Aberdeen

Post by Golich » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:58 pm

PM me with your email and I'll forward pics. All should be revealed. As you say a starting point is to not with VAGCOM which cylinder is reporting a missfire and simply move the coil packs around. If that doesn't reveal anything swap the plugs of the offending cylinder.

Philws4
4th Gear
Posts: 658
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:41 pm

Post by Philws4 » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:46 pm

Not had any personel experiance with this but my brother in law (who is a trained mechanic) puts his money on a faulty coil pack.
B5 S4

Post Reply

Return to “Audi Tuning and Modifications”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 13 guests