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H&R Coilovers - IS THIS THE WAY TO GO ???

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:34 pm
by RS-Steve
What's the verdict on H&R coliovers ???

RE: H&R Coilovers - IS THIS THE WAY TO GO ???

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:04 pm
by DaveP
Depends on you want from the car.

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:29 am
by RS-Steve
well, I'll be using it every day but i also do quite a bit of fast road driving on good smooth A roads.

Having recently moved from a sport suspension equipped 911 (which I didn't find too hard for everyday use), i find the body control, turn in, pitch and dive of the RS4 utterly shocking. it does not inspire confidence in any way and is far too soft for a car of this performance.

the standard shocks were shot when I bought the car, so I recently changed them for new standard shocks (waste of cash) thinking it would stiffen things up, it did a bit but still no good in my opinion.

i have heard good things about the h&r setup in that is suits the car well, is reasonably progressive and can be set up to suit most tastes. I'd like to lower it a bit too.

any advice would be appreciated.

cheers,


Steve.

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:06 pm
by clived
Steve,

I've not driven a host of RS4s to compare, but I was in a similar situation to you - bought car with soggy (60k) suspension.... but I went straight for the H&R PCS kit - vast improvement - total transformation in fact. It's set to roughly mid-point, so it can be firmed up further for track days.

I'm considering adding ARBs, but I'll see how it fairs on track on the 10th first...

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:33 pm
by DaveP
If you have the cash I'd go for the Stasis kit myself...

If you don't, then either the PCS kit or the K&W stuff...that seems quite decent.

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:00 pm
by RS-Steve
Clived,

so you reckon the H&R stuff is a good choice.

did it get rid of the pitch and dive under acceleration and braking ???

where did you get it from and how much ???

exscuse my ignorance, but what does "PCS" stand for ???

I have abudget of £1k by the way, so would fit it myself.

cheers,

Steve

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:02 pm
by clived
Yes, stiffer all round, with less roll, pitch and dive.

PCS = Power Control System.

IIRC the retail price has just gone up to £1400 - I got them from QST.

I have KW kit on my TT that I'm also happy with - went PCS as I wanted it fitting and QST don't do the KW stuff :)

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:28 pm
by JonnyX
I were doing this I would look at stasis tracksports as well. Very highly regarded.

http://www.stasisengineering.com/audi_s ... nsion.html

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:15 pm
by PhilT
I'd recommend the KW v3 for the RS4. If you're feeling up to it, add in a full set of Powerflex bushes, and those big chucky H&R ARBs.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:01 pm
by RS-Steve
PhilT

so how much is the KW stuff and where do I get it from ???


cheers,

Steve.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:12 pm
by Prawn
Dont muck about, put Stasis kit on the Car.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:06 pm
by PhilT
so how much is the KW stuff and where do I get it from ???
About a grand - http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... CcountryGB

Call around for the best prices, but K300 should be a good bet - Might help if you mention RS246 ;)
Dont muck about, put Stasis kit on the Car.
True. But ultra expensive, and seems like too much of a chore to locate the external reservoirs. The KW set to medium/hard is perfect for road and frequent track usage.

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:58 am
by kies4
I got H+R coilvers and arbs for £900 from www.bogysoft.de, have your german ready or use bablefish, i had excellent service from there.

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:39 pm
by waitey1
I tried Quattro Sport and H&R PCS, both are festering in my garage. Suspension Guru at Harvey Bailey Engineering test drove standard set up and in the end provided me with New springs and revalved Bilsteins. Iwill ask PhilT to have a go next time we meet. (Northern Meet) and see what he thinks. I missed the opportunity at Donington -I was on call.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:39 am
by Golich
waitey1 wrote:I tried Quattro Sport and H&R PCS, both are festering in my garage. Suspension Guru at Harvey Bailey Engineering test drove standard set up and in the end provided me with New springs and revalved Bilsteins. Iwill ask PhilT to have a go next time we meet. (Northern Meet) and see what he thinks. I missed the opportunity at Donington -I was on call.
Very interesting. No way of adjusting anything I take it?

Something that's puzzling me about all ride height units. Are you simply lower the height of the car by reducing the amount of pre-load on the spring? By that I mean simply, unwinding the amount the spring is pre-compressed?

If this is the case then surely this results in the car feeling soggy as you introduce more sag into the damper?