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VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 9:15 pm
by DuncS3
VAG COM seems a pretty impressive tool to me.
In terms of checking the health of your car what can I get from a RR that I cannot get from VAGCOM? (apart from BHP/Torque readings)

Dunc [img]images/graemlins/s3addict.gif[/img]

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 9:17 pm
by Riz_RS4
Yup! not got it though.......... [img]images/graemlins/tung2.gif[/img]

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 9:25 pm
by sitas3
Dunc, you can get torque settings (thus bhp after conversion) from Vag-com, but I'm told that it isn't 100% reliable due to sampling rates etc. The most I've got today on a run with Vag-com is 361 NM which is 266 lb/foot of torque.

Some rolling roads don't measure boost - others do like g-force and Interpro. The Well Lane Turbo centre didn't so we measured it in the car on the rollers with Vag-com.

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 9:28 pm
by Riz_RS4
The most I've got today on a run with Vag-com is 361 NM which is 266 lb/foot of torque.
Thats strange, on the leaflet i got it says quote:

Not Maximum BHP Figures.
265bhp / 287lb ft / 389nm

This is was i was running according to the chap i got my trial from. [img]images/graemlins/s3addict.gif[/img]

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 9:33 pm
by sitas3
Riz, how did the chap who set your software up know how much power your car was outputting? was this stated on the leaflet you got?

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 9:42 pm
by sitas3
BTW, I think the VAG-COM tool is a must have for anyone who has 'Tweaked' their car. Today's VAG-COM logging has provided proof of that for me.

PS Dunc, tuesday's logging session on your car should be interesting - after friday's update, the boost curve on my car has changed...

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 10:24 pm
by Riz_RS4
Riz, how did the chap who set your software up know how much power your car was outputting? was this stated on the leaflet you got?
yup its all on the leaflet i got off him, got loads of VAG cars with not max output figures on them, basically typical figures and not the max available.

Audi S3 (210 non VVT) 260bhp / 284ft lb
Audi S3 (210/225 VVT) 265bhp / 287lb ft

My cousin says he selected timing 4 but i was thinking he put it on 7? he said that he selected the 98RON program and that if it was the Optimax one the gain would be more, 280bhp approx. [img]images/graemlins/tung2.gif[/img]

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 11:11 pm
by Paul-RS
i need to get vagcom, and more importantly a laptop soon...

even more dosh!

Simon/Dunc...

how are you finding the later code? I "felt" it was a huge improvement, particularly in high boost range... smoother and more pleasurable to drive....

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 11:19 pm
by DuncS3
I like mine so far, appears smoother but I havent been out much this weekend in the car.

Anyway, what about Air/Fuel ratio - only measured on RR or can VG do that?

Dunc [img]images/graemlins/s3addict.gif[/img]

Re: VAG-COM vs Rolling Road

Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 9:01 am
by sitas3
Paul, latest revison definitely smoother. Vag-com reckons the car is more powerful.

Dunc, I'd say you can - if the ecu needs to know what these are for optimal running, then they will be 'Measurable' via codes which means Vag-com should be able to access them.