AMD launches "one-click" serial port tuning

[TimJMS]

The point of a dealer using an SPS-3 as a "detector" didn't hit me at first but it's correct that I'm using Andiroo's SPS-3 device to change settings on mine and it worked immediatly. I don't remember anyone tweaking the sps-3 as Andiroo handed it to me.

Eric

Sorry Eric. Just spotted this after my post to Dunc. I suppose this can overcome the immobiliser as well then?

[sash]

I've already had a remap at AMD done. I now however would like to benefit from the Serial technology so that i can revert the car back to stock when required.
I wonder if AMD would do a deal on those that already had a remap done. Hopefully it would be a lot cheaper. Surely they would just have to download the remaped code onto their device. No rr, less labour cost etc.

PS when it comes to people checking for chipping, i recently had a big claim to make on my s4, close to £10000 worth of damage, anyway a family friend owns an audi specialist garage so he took the car. I informed the insurance comapny where the car was. They sent a guy down to look at the car and apparently he didnt even look under the bonnet.

If involved in an accident with another person that persons insurance company will do a lot more investigative work on your car if they can somehow get out of paying, so they may very well send your car off to a specialist who does have the equiment necessary to check if the ECU has been moded.

[Taipan]

If involved in an accident with another person that persons insurance company will do a lot more investigative work on your car if they can somehow get out of paying, so they may very well send your car off to a specialist who does have the equiment necessary to check if the ECU has been moded.

Then I wonder what would happen if you totally retrieved the whole ECU box before the car's taken away to the garage.

No proof of tuning can be made -and what's the real risk with the ECU missing ?-.

(I assume the car being chipped as not being the cause of the accident, just an excuse for the insurance to deny its obligations).

Eric

[sash]

I did enquire a few weeks ago as to whether AMD would remap back to stock. They said if I brought them the black box they would detune it in about an hour for £100 pounds.

So AMD can remap back to stock before any insurance investigator starts poking around your engine. Quality service AMD, well done! Obviously this is only necessary when the insurance company dont know about your remap.

There was a thread on this or another forum where an insurance company actually sent a car to an audi specialist to find out if the car had been chipped, they found out that it had been (not sure what happened as a result)

[DuncS3]

S4SH - this remap back to stock would involve removing your ECU, opening it up, desoldering the daughter board AMD have put in your ECU, then resoldering the original chip back. Repeated signs of soldering and resoldering, which however good the solderer is, will not be as good as the machine that would of done it the first time.

Anyway I would imagine a specialist (like AMD for example) should never look at ECUs for other companies (insurers or manafacturers), as that to me would be a massive conflict of interest.

Dunc [img]images/graemlins/s3addict.gif[/img]

[sash]

While on the subject of insurance, when the insurance company ask how much extra power your remap has given you they usally want the value in BHP. The thing is they usually charge a certain amount for every 20% in power increase. I know that bhp is a variable and that if i did an rr on a hot day i may get just under 20% power increase whereas on a cold day it could be just over (hence the need to call AMD to make sure it would not be over 20% if tested). So what would the insurance company do if they tested your car and came up with a higher bhp figure than the figure you declared?

[sash]

DuncS3, thanks for the info, i new it involved resoldering etc. The thing is if the insurance comapny did ask for a power test and the results stated that you have standard power output there would be no need for the insurance company to want to look at your ECU. However, if the power output is high and they see no visible engine mods then i can only presume that they will have the ecu tested. Dont give them an excuse to look, thats what i say.

PS i think that specialist that did the investigation for the insurance company was AMD , may be wrong but i think im right.

[Paul-RS]

2) With Revo, a dealer could use their device, plug it into your car and with the benefit of a quick test drive find out your car is chipped. With the AMD solution, if a dealer did this, they woudl be effectively chipping your car - so you are really undetectable at that level. i would imagine they are all detectable to some extent, if Bosch had your ECU I would guess they could detect that something had been uploaded.

This is NOT what Revo told me. Each car requires its own dongle, or a "virgin" one from Revo in order to operate the implanted code. Otherwise, any crimimal could still steal your car with any dongle when you had left it parked in immobilised setting.

revo sps devices are not tied to the car. Revo told me that. The plan was there to start with, but they never did it, incase people lost them.

Any sps device can operate any revo car, as long as its in the same product group. Ie VAG.

[Thorney]

To my knowlwdge AmD have never done any investigative for any insurance company.....they have done for manaufacturers though.

[sash]

may be im wrong, ill try and find the thread

[Robert]

2)... With Revo, a dealer could use their device, plug it into your car and with the benefit of a quick test drive find out your car is chipped....
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This is NOT what Revo told me. Each car requires its own dongle, or a "virgin" one from Revo in order to operate the implanted code. Otherwise, any crimimal could still steal your car with any dongle when you had left it parked in immobilised setting.

The point of a dealer using an SPS-3 as a "detector" didn't hit me at first but it's correct that I'm using Andiroo's SPS-3 device to change settings on mine and it worked immediatly. I don't remember anyone tweaking the sps-3 as Andiroo handed it to me.

Eric

The dealers wont be able to activate the Revo software if you have switched back to stock mode b4 taking it in, as the SPS device that switched it is the only one that can switch it back to performance.
If however the car is in performance mode you can use any SPS device to alter setting but if you switch it to stock only that SPS device will switch it back.
Jonah

[Paul-RS]

Jonah mate.. you been misled.

Any SPS switch can switch it as long as its from the same product group. Its not tied to the car as first thought and planned.

same goes for security mode .

[Robert]

Well i never knew that

[Paul-RS]

afraid so.

It was the original plan, but they dropped it.

Info came from Revo HQ.

[JonnyX]

I've already had a remap at AMD done. I now however would like to benefit from the Serial technology so that i can revert the car back to stock when required.

I was told by Ed at AMD that oneclick would only be
available for the 1.8T engines in the VAG range. 2.7T's
will still have to plump for a remap. I am consdiering
Upsolute (cheap) or Revo at the moment.