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Glyn RS2 to RS4

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:14 pm
by rs2315
Hi Glyn, now you've owned the RS4 for a good few months, I just wanted to know the real differences between the two cars?
Any regrets about selling the RS2?
Other forum members might be interested in this one!!!
Cheers.
rs2315.

RE: Glyn RS2 to RS4

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:43 pm
by PaulF
I'm interested

Paul

Re: Glyn RS2 to RS4

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:36 pm
by rs2315
rs2315 wrote:Hi Glyn, now you've owned the RS4 for a good few months, I just wanted to know the real differences between the two cars?
Any regrets about selling the RS2?
Other forum members might be interested in this one!!!
Cheers.
rs2315.
Earth calling Glyn, come in Glyn?????????
Does anybody know if he's still on the forum?
rs2315.

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:50 am
by AlWyn
Ive left a message for him re this post over on S2 forum :wink:

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:58 pm
by rs2315
laseravant wrote:Ive left a message for him re this post over on S2 forum :wink:
Cheers Laser.
rs2315.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:23 pm
by GlynRS2
OK someone has just woken me up ! :bash:

RS2 vs RS4 - quite hard to compare as they way they go about things is very different.
The RS4 is very smooth and very rapid without the excitement of a sudden surge of torque @ 3000 rpm, it just gathers pace almost seamlessly.
The noise from the V8 engine is fantastic and makes up for the torque kick, as it is equally addictive.
The main advantage of the RS4 is the handling and agility. It feels like a much smaller car than the RS2 and much more chuckable with real steering feel that makes you feel much more directly involved in the drive, in doing so it inspires confidence. Cross country it would take a very good driver in a well sorted RS2 to be able to keep up with an RS4 driven by an average driver. Fast A-road / autobahn driving there is nothing between them, i.e. it would take a true supercar to beat them :mrgreen:
Comfort wise there is not much between them, the RS2 is more spacious inside, particularly in the back. The RS4 ride is slightly firmer without being harsh and is beautifully damped giving a feeling of tightness in the responses.
The RS2 is easier to drive smoothly around town, thanks to the long travel of the throttle and the ability to be off boost. The electronic throttle of the RS4 is short in action and requires careful modulation to be smooth at low speeds.
The gear change on the RS4 is much shorter in throw but still a bit notchy, but you still have to be quick at full attack as it is so easy to hit the limiter at 8250rpm. It revs so quickly and cleanly all the way to the limiter, you just want more :twisted:
Brakes on both are excellent, I had the big red set up on the RS2. The pedals on the RS4 are much lighter in use than the RS2 which required a much firmer foot, but the effect is much the same, i.e. you can shed speed rapidly.
Toys - the RS4 is full of them, which is great and I would not want to have to live without things like auto adaptive lights now. 12 years of technology truly separates the two here.
Fuel economy - my long term average RS2: 19mpg, RS4: 20mpg Well there is progress :lol:
Do I miss my RS2 - yes. If you ever come to sell yours you will probably regret it, I do. :( The RS2 is a superb car and very very special. I just wish I could have found a way to keep both - I should have just sold the wife's Golf. She misses the RS2 and so do the kids, the kick of acceleration is highly addictive and great fun and I miss it like anything. But we all love the RS4 for different reasons. If someone were to offer me a mint rhd RS2 in RS Blue tomorrow, I would be speaking to my bank manager and clearing out the other half of the garage ;)
I don't want to sell my RS4 I just want the RS2 back! :thumbs:

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:20 pm
by rs2315
GlynG60 wrote:OK someone has just woken me up ! :bash:

RS2 vs RS4 - quite hard to compare as they way they go about things is very different.
The RS4 is very smooth and very rapid without the excitement of a sudden surge of torque @ 3000 rpm, it just gathers pace almost seamlessly.
The noise from the V8 engine is fantastic and makes up for the torque kick, as it is equally addictive.
The main advantage of the RS4 is the handling and agility. It feels like a much smaller car than the RS2 and much more chuckable with real steering feel that makes you feel much more directly involved in the drive, in doing so it inspires confidence. Cross country it would take a very good driver in a well sorted RS2 to be able to keep up with an RS4 driven by an average driver. Fast A-road / autobahn driving there is nothing between them, i.e. it would take a true supercar to beat them :mrgreen:
Comfort wise there is not much between them, the RS2 is more spacious inside, particularly in the back. The RS4 ride is slightly firmer without being harsh and is beautifully damped giving a feeling of tightness in the responses.
The RS2 is easier to drive smoothly around town, thanks to the long travel of the throttle and the ability to be off boost. The electronic throttle of the RS4 is short in action and requires careful modulation to be smooth at low speeds.
The gear change on the RS4 is much shorter in throw but still a bit notchy, but you still have to be quick at full attack as it is so easy to hit the limiter at 8250rpm. It revs so quickly and cleanly all the way to the limiter, you just want more :twisted:
Brakes on both are excellent, I had the big red set up on the RS2. The pedals on the RS4 are much lighter in use than the RS2 which required a much firmer foot, but the effect is much the same, i.e. you can shed speed rapidly.
Toys - the RS4 is full of them, which is great and I would not want to have to live without things like auto adaptive lights now. 12 years of technology truly separates the two here.
Fuel economy - my long term average RS2: 19mpg, RS4: 20mpg Well there is progress :lol:
Do I miss my RS2 - yes. If you ever come to sell yours you will probably regret it, I do. :( The RS2 is a superb car and very very special. I just wish I could have found a way to keep both - I should have just sold the wife's Golf. She misses the RS2 and so do the kids, the kick of acceleration is highly addictive and great fun and I miss it like anything. But we all love the RS4 for different reasons. If someone were to offer me a mint rhd RS2 in RS Blue tomorrow, I would be speaking to my bank manager and clearing out the other half of the garage ;)
I don't want to sell my RS4 I just want the RS2 back! :thumbs:

Better late than never :wink:
Great write up, well worth the wait.
I'm hoping to keep mine for a long time yet.
Spending plenty on her, so I want to get a return.
I'm new to the Audi stable, but I've quickly learnt what an iconic car the RS2 is.
As much as the RS4 is a cracking car, I've just got that feeling that in 12 years time it won't produce the X factor that the RS2 does today.

So if the mint RS blue arrives in your driveway be sure to let us all know.
Cheers Glynn.
rs2315.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:59 am
by tom1
Great write up Glyn, Ive had my RS2 (Rs blue by the way) :) for a couple of months now and just love it.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:23 pm
by quattrokid1
I know of an RS2 rs blue in Abink its still for sale.

pm me if you want herdeen. pm me if your interested and I'll put you in touch.

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:17 pm
by VaudiGR
Glyn great write up,
would you say that a tweek in the RS2 suspention such as a rear ARB or bilstein shocks could improve handling feel and bring it up to date with the RS4??

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:28 pm
by GlynRS2
It would require quite a lot of suspension wizardry to get the RS2 up to the same level - I am not saying it is impossible just that it would require some one very clever indeed. I think some of it may be due to the 60:40 rear;front split of the dif too.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:38 pm
by rs2315
GlynG60 wrote:It would require quite a lot of suspension wizardry to get the RS2 up to the same level - I am not saying it is impossible just that it would require some one very clever indeed. I think some of it may be due to the 60:40 rear;front split of the dif too.
Glyn do you also think that an avant and a saloon car can never be matched in the handling stakes because of body dimensions etc.etc. ie RS2- RS4 saloon.
Did you have a test drive in an RS4 avant before making your mind up?
rs2315.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:28 am
by VaudiGR
if it makes any difference,the s2limo and the rs2 avant had excactly the same dimentions if i remember correctly.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:43 pm
by rs2315
Vasaudigreece wrote:if it makes any difference,the s2limo and the rs2 avant had excactly the same dimentions if i remember correctly.
Also new RS4 has a lighter engine than 5 cylinder which a certain Mr Clarkson pointed out on Top Gear.
Which means less understeer, = quicker round corner :)
rs2315.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:26 pm
by VaudiGR
On the RS2 i am told that if you fit a rear thicker ant roll bar,the car can get from understeer that it is originally,to neutral or oversteer in the aggressive level.im waiting to try the rear ARB from neuspeed that i ordered and let you know.
AAH has already fitted one and maybe he can tell us what he thinks