S2 & RS2

Post by **Dippy** » Fri May 09, 2003 4:42 pm

I know almost zip about the S2 and RS2 so would someone please provide me with a quick summary of them?

Cheers,
Dave

Post by **PhilT** » Fri May 09, 2003 5:23 pm

5 Cyl 20v 2.2L Turbo

S2 - 230 bhp (220 on earlier models, I think)
RS2 - 315 bhp thanks to Porsche

The same engine was used in the Volvo T5.

I'll try to get the brochures uploaded asap.

Post by **Riz_RS4** » Fri May 09, 2003 6:34 pm

Got the full spec`s if anyone needs them...... what specs are you after?
I can give Audi parts costs too if required?

Basic spec`s as follows :-

S2 220bhp=
engine 2226cc
220bhp (162kw) @ 5900rpms
228lb ft (309nm) @ 1950rpm
70litre fuel tank [img]images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
Max speed 154mph (246kph)
0-50mph 4.4sec
0-60mph 5.9sec
0-70mph 7.9sec
Unladen weight 1420kg

S2 230bhp=
engine 2226cc
230bhp (169kw) @ 5900rpms
258lb ft (350nm) @ 1950rpm
70litre fuel tank [img]images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
Max speed 154mph (246kph)
0-50mph 4.2sec
0-60mph 5.3sec
0-70mph 7.5sec
Unladen weight 1525kg

Original Audi list prices =

July 1995 £31,390
August 1994 £32,385
April 1994 £32,033
October 1993 £31,073
January 1993 £30,495
November 1992 £29,064
March 1992 £28,941
November 1991 £30,098
April 1991 £30,033
August 1990 £29,394

[img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/s3addict.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img] The S2 is a Classic [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

Post by **Riz_RS4** » Fri May 09, 2003 6:41 pm

Audi RS2 Spec`s as follows :-

Engine 2226cc
315bhp (232kw) @ 6500rpms
410Nm @ 3000rpms
Unladen weight 1595kg
Top speed 163mph (262kph) [img]images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
0-62mph 5.4sec [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]
0-124mph 22.2sec
64 litre tank.

[img]images/graemlins/bowdown.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/tung2.gif[/img]

Post by **s2driver** » Fri May 09, 2003 7:54 pm

Hang on, where is my anorak....few sad points highlighting my need to get out more often:

The S2 ECU can overboost to 380Nm for short periods.
The official Audi 0-62 times for the S2 (230 bhp): Avant=6.1s and Coupe=5.9s. Many magazines tested the RS2 and it was timed at 4.8s to 60 mph! Plus, quicker than a McLaren F1 to 30 mph (traction baby!).

S2 avant has 64 litre tank (Coupe is 70 litres). Tank not big enough though becuase flat out on the Autobahn you have to fill it every 110 to 130 miles. Cost me quite a bit to drive to Munich last year but it was fun!

Engine is not the same as the T5: 2.3 lite versus 2.2 for the S2 and 'just' 225bhp for the Volvo T5. My dad has an 850R (as T5 but 250 bhp stock, around 275 bhp now) with Milltek racing cat stainless downpipe and system and has a very different engine to the S2. Only takes 6000rpm versus S2s 7500rpm redline. They might share the block casting but that is it. Dads car is faster accelerating than mine at the moment (once over 50 mph) and his top speed is nocking on for 160 mph whilst mine will only do 153 mph on GPS with 280 bhp! He wants to upgrade further but can't really go beyond 300 bhp due to weak internals. S2 stock engine starts bending the rods at around 400-450 bhp. If the blocks are the same he is better off grafting in an S2 engine if he wants more power reliably.

S2 engine identical to RS2 engine except: ECU map, inlet manifold, injectors, turbo, exhaust manifold and exhaust camshaft.

Lee

Post by **Dippy** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:25 pm

Thanks guys - I was just interested that's all.

Seems strange that there was a 2 door coupe and a 5 door estate, but no 4 door saloon.

I also assume that if the engine was 'only' 2.2 litre, the RS2 must have some turbo lag!

How come the engine was used by Volvo? Did Audi have some relationship with Volvo in the past? Volvo is owned by Ford isn't it?

Post by **PhilT** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:36 pm

Seems strange that there was a 2 door coupe and a 5 door estate, but no 4 door saloon.

Like this?

[img]images/rsul/1513-S2%20Saloon%20black%20small.jpg[/img]

Here's the thread....

I also assume that if the engine was 'only' 2.2 litre, the RS2 must have some turbo lag!

You better believe it, awesome [img]images/graemlins/s4anogaro.gif[/img]

How come the engine was used by Volvo? Did Audi have some relationship with Volvo in the past? Volvo is owned by Ford isn't it?

Don't really know why that came about.... Maybe because it was such a great design...

Post by **s2driver** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:37 pm

The RS2 really comes on stream after 4000 rpm and is then a sky rocket to over 7000 rpm. It is a mental motor considering it was a standard production car.

I don't think the engine was used in a Volvo. The engines certainly look very different. I have maintained and worked on both the 850R and my S2 and the only common component is possibly the block but I can't be sure.

There was a 4-door saloon and they made about 300 cars but all in left hand drive for the US and European markets. There were also a handful of factory RS2 4-door saloons for the German market but don't count on ever seeing one of these on the road anywhere!

Although never available from the factory (right?) a few people have created RS2 Coupes. PhilT's old car which now belongs to Doug_RS2_Coupe was an S2 Coupe which had a load of mods to the added RS2 bits to take power to an even higher level.

Lee

Post by **PhilT** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:43 pm

You'll make me cry again....

Saw Doug and the car on Sunday at Well Lane, still sounds excellent

.

To me, this is when it looked it's best.

Post by **Dippy** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:46 pm

So these were the first ever cars in the Audi 'S' range?

Post by **Riz_RS4** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:50 pm

You'll make me cry again....

Awwwwwwww [img]images/graemlins/boots.gif[/img] im sure you`ll oneday be a couple again [img]images/graemlins/tung2.gif[/img] I think the S1 was the first S car..... not too sure though [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] im sure Phil will know as its probably from his era [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/jump.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/tung2.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

Post by **s2driver** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:51 pm

Nope. The S1 was first. I don't know much about it I'm afraid. Anyone else?

Post by **Riz_RS4** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:54 pm

Wasnt it the real first quattro car? S1 Turbo...... rally prepped i think........ ive got some info somewhere [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/1syellow1.gif[/img]

Post by **s2driver** » Fri May 09, 2003 10:04 pm

Sorry Riz. We replied at the same tme. Look forward to info on the S1. Wasn't it the road homologation for the group B rally car in the mid eighties with over 300 bhp?

Lee
Going to look on the web for info...[img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img]

Post by **Riz_RS4** » Fri May 09, 2003 10:06 pm

No probs mate! [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/tung2.gif[/img]

I will try and search too...... im sure there will be something about it on the net..... [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img]

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