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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by rs4steve » Wed Feb 05, 2003 5:44 pm

hi everyone top day, top people, that rolling road is the dogs bollox i will leave jr to post figures/graphs [img]images/graemlins/jump3.gif[/img]

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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by sitas3 » Wed Feb 05, 2003 7:21 pm

Good day, and it was good to meet you all again.

Dissapointed - unfortunately my car didn't/wouldn't settle on the rollers due to the Haldex playing up, therefore we aborted my run after 1/2 hour of poncing about (Paul-S3 decided not to run after this..)Simon Elman, who has a haldex controller to lock the car into 4 wheel drive mode managed a run - nice figures (350lb torque and nearly 300bhp iirc [img]images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img])..

Looks like I'll have to wait for Kim Collins' rolling road..
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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Paul-RS » Wed Feb 05, 2003 7:28 pm

Hi lads, top day out, and i'll be along for next one. Thanks for arranging it.

Unfortunately couldnt run our Revo S3's as the Haldex kept shifting power back/forth , and unsettling car on rollers, and they/we didnt want to pull fuses to run 2 wheel drive..

Simon (yellow s3) managed a run, as he is able to switch his haldex into permanent 50/50 4x4 and got really good figures!

cant wait till next event.. [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by thorx » Wed Feb 05, 2003 7:55 pm

It was a great day, even if my bollocks are still frozen solid! [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I am however not particularly happy about the result I got though. APR quote that the NDBW 1.8T 1.0 Bar programme should give you approx. 196 bhp and 240 lb/ft of torque. Mine had 150bhp at the wheels which calculates to be 170 bhp at the flywheel (12% loss for fwd cars). Torque was even worse, 188 lb/ft. [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I can't believe that. I've gotta get the REVO upgrade sorted, but first I'm going to find out why my figures were so low. [img]images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Bushy » Wed Feb 05, 2003 8:16 pm

Good day

Shame the Revo couldnt get tested [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Sorry i had to go and do some work but thought we would get done around lunchtime

Karl - Thanks, that shifter is the mutts, well impressed [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

Really superb rolling road

I will write a thank you letter to them from us all. [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

The guy running the road was a really great knowledgeable guy, found some really interesting stuff about brakes and engine tuning, thanks [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/jump_clap.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

Superb

I look forward to doing another one with Andy Laws car

Well done all who turned up and i think another one once our numbers grow, maybe in a few months [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img]
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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by tanoga » Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:30 pm

Fantastic day fantastic rolling road and fantastic result, 336.5BHP at the wheels [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

Oh, and nice to meet everyone.
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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by PhilT » Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:50 pm

Get yer plots out boyz..... [img]images/graemlins/sekret.gif[/img]
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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by wazza » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:26 am

Here goes then.....
196.9bhp at the wheels with a 27% loss, calculated as 196.9/.73= 269.7bhp
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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Andiroo » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:09 pm

So any RS4 figures yet guys [img]images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Bushy » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:15 pm

well here are my plots
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Hope you can make sense of them

Assuming 27% loss flywheel power is 445bhp

However on AMD's rollers they estimate the loss to be 30%, which would give 464bhp

Dont know really

But the car still goes like stink Image
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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Bushy » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:22 pm

i would love to see andy laws car on the rollers here as the guy there was very clued up

Be interesting what his comments would be for your car mate
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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Andiroo » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:23 pm

Good figures mate [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

The losses you quote are indeed in question - depending on who you speak to, but at the end of the day 325 at the wheels is pretty cool. [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Andiroo » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:27 pm

Would have loved to be there mate, but hopefully she's in bits at the moment [img]images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

He could probably have some good pointers for me on the heat and stuff [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Bushy » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:30 pm

He actually said this type of engine, dont worry about the heat.

He said bigger turbos and more gas flow is the answer, the gains on changing intercoolers were minimal

Very interesting chap
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Re: Rolling Road Meet

Post by Bushy » Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:31 pm

Not sure how the lb figures is converted to torque either
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