Rolling Road Meet
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hi everyone top day, top people, that rolling road is the dogs bollox i will leave jr to post figures/graphs [img]images/graemlins/jump3.gif[/img]
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Good day, and it was good to meet you all again.
Dissapointed - unfortunately my car didn't/wouldn't settle on the rollers due to the Haldex playing up, therefore we aborted my run after 1/2 hour of poncing about (Paul-S3 decided not to run after this..)Simon Elman, who has a haldex controller to lock the car into 4 wheel drive mode managed a run - nice figures (350lb torque and nearly 300bhp iirc [img]images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img])..
Looks like I'll have to wait for Kim Collins' rolling road..
Dissapointed - unfortunately my car didn't/wouldn't settle on the rollers due to the Haldex playing up, therefore we aborted my run after 1/2 hour of poncing about (Paul-S3 decided not to run after this..)Simon Elman, who has a haldex controller to lock the car into 4 wheel drive mode managed a run - nice figures (350lb torque and nearly 300bhp iirc [img]images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img])..
Looks like I'll have to wait for Kim Collins' rolling road..
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Hi lads, top day out, and i'll be along for next one. Thanks for arranging it.
Unfortunately couldnt run our Revo S3's as the Haldex kept shifting power back/forth , and unsettling car on rollers, and they/we didnt want to pull fuses to run 2 wheel drive..
Simon (yellow s3) managed a run, as he is able to switch his haldex into permanent 50/50 4x4 and got really good figures!
cant wait till next event.. [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
Unfortunately couldnt run our Revo S3's as the Haldex kept shifting power back/forth , and unsettling car on rollers, and they/we didnt want to pull fuses to run 2 wheel drive..
Simon (yellow s3) managed a run, as he is able to switch his haldex into permanent 50/50 4x4 and got really good figures!
cant wait till next event.. [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
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It was a great day, even if my bollocks are still frozen solid! [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I am however not particularly happy about the result I got though. APR quote that the NDBW 1.8T 1.0 Bar programme should give you approx. 196 bhp and 240 lb/ft of torque. Mine had 150bhp at the wheels which calculates to be 170 bhp at the flywheel (12% loss for fwd cars). Torque was even worse, 188 lb/ft. [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
I can't believe that. I've gotta get the REVO upgrade sorted, but first I'm going to find out why my figures were so low. [img]images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
I am however not particularly happy about the result I got though. APR quote that the NDBW 1.8T 1.0 Bar programme should give you approx. 196 bhp and 240 lb/ft of torque. Mine had 150bhp at the wheels which calculates to be 170 bhp at the flywheel (12% loss for fwd cars). Torque was even worse, 188 lb/ft. [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
I can't believe that. I've gotta get the REVO upgrade sorted, but first I'm going to find out why my figures were so low. [img]images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Good day
Shame the Revo couldnt get tested [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Sorry i had to go and do some work but thought we would get done around lunchtime
Karl - Thanks, that shifter is the mutts, well impressed [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
Really superb rolling road
I will write a thank you letter to them from us all. [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
The guy running the road was a really great knowledgeable guy, found some really interesting stuff about brakes and engine tuning, thanks [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/jump_clap.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
Superb
I look forward to doing another one with Andy Laws car
Well done all who turned up and i think another one once our numbers grow, maybe in a few months [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img]
Shame the Revo couldnt get tested [img]images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Sorry i had to go and do some work but thought we would get done around lunchtime
Karl - Thanks, that shifter is the mutts, well impressed [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
Really superb rolling road
I will write a thank you letter to them from us all. [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
The guy running the road was a really great knowledgeable guy, found some really interesting stuff about brakes and engine tuning, thanks [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/jump_clap.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
Superb
I look forward to doing another one with Andy Laws car
Well done all who turned up and i think another one once our numbers grow, maybe in a few months [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img]
Can't beat a bit of boost!
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Fantastic day fantastic rolling road and fantastic result, 336.5BHP at the wheels [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
Oh, and nice to meet everyone.
Karl
Oh, and nice to meet everyone.
Karl
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Here goes then.....
196.9bhp at the wheels with a 27% loss, calculated as 196.9/.73= 269.7bhp
Thought it was running OK.

196.9bhp at the wheels with a 27% loss, calculated as 196.9/.73= 269.7bhp
Thought it was running OK.




Paul
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So any RS4 figures yet guys [img]images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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well here are my plots
Hope you can make sense of them
Assuming 27% loss flywheel power is 445bhp
However on AMD's rollers they estimate the loss to be 30%, which would give 464bhp
Dont know really
But the car still goes like stink



Hope you can make sense of them
Assuming 27% loss flywheel power is 445bhp
However on AMD's rollers they estimate the loss to be 30%, which would give 464bhp
Dont know really
But the car still goes like stink

Can't beat a bit of boost!
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i would love to see andy laws car on the rollers here as the guy there was very clued up
Be interesting what his comments would be for your car mate
Be interesting what his comments would be for your car mate
Can't beat a bit of boost!
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Good figures mate [img]images/graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
The losses you quote are indeed in question - depending on who you speak to, but at the end of the day 325 at the wheels is pretty cool. [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Andiroo
The losses you quote are indeed in question - depending on who you speak to, but at the end of the day 325 at the wheels is pretty cool. [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Would have loved to be there mate, but hopefully she's in bits at the moment [img]images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
He could probably have some good pointers for me on the heat and stuff [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Andiroo
He could probably have some good pointers for me on the heat and stuff [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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He actually said this type of engine, dont worry about the heat.
He said bigger turbos and more gas flow is the answer, the gains on changing intercoolers were minimal
Very interesting chap
He said bigger turbos and more gas flow is the answer, the gains on changing intercoolers were minimal
Very interesting chap
Can't beat a bit of boost!
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Not sure how the lb figures is converted to torque either
Can't beat a bit of boost!
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