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Here are the new covers fitted:

















The parts are £75.00 each with free uk P&P


Carbonblack
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No offence mate, but some of them look pretty awful compared to the OEM std.

I'd stick with giving the originals a right good clean once in a while

Given that people rarely look under the bonnet, I couldn't give to fecks about what it looks like but if it floats your bat then fair enough.

the weave is every were what carbon did u use
i would not be able to put them under my bonnet

nickwigan wrote:the weave is every were what carbon did u use
i would not be able to put them under my bonnet

What is it with some of you guys wanting to slag everyone & everything off!?!

Is anyone being forced to buy these items?

As I only started my career 22 seconds ago & not 22 years ago, in the Composites manufacture & Composite tool making industry, could you please enlighten me about carbon fibre. From your comment "What Carbon did you use?" you must be telling me that their is more than one type of Carbon Fibre. Apparently I was wrong in thinking that Carbon fibre 'IS' Carbon fibre. If there are other 'Carbon fibres' I'm sure all you 'Experts' will want to change career & demonstrate your knowlege & expertise to the rest of the world industry of Composite manufactures, that they dont actually know what they are doing..

As far as the Carbon Fibre being wavy etc, here is something to try for yourselves.

Get a sheet of A4 lined paper & with out cutting the sheet up, wrap this single, join free sheet of paper around the complicated shaped cover, the cover with the round hole in it to the right of the engine. When you have finished doing this, what do the lines on the lined paper now look like? bet they dont follow the same direction? but if they do all point in the same direction, then the Law's of Physics must be wrong.

Have fun children..

carbonblack

its not about slaging any one off
but they are not up to the standard of what people want
and when i said what carbon ie pre preg but u new that as uv had been doing it 22 years
dont post things to sell if u dont want a opinion on them

nickwigan wrote:its not about slaging any one off
but they are not up to the standard of what people want
and when i said what carbon ie pre preg but u new that as uv had been doing it 22 years
dont post things to sell if u dont want a opinion on them

Your still missing the point m8. I dont think you have tried the little exersise.

With a relatively flat panel you can get the weave to flow in straight lines but with a complicated shaped panel, it is impossible. Therefore, are peoples expectations accurate & correct?. or would you think that expectations are off because of not having an understanding of what is/is not achivable with with composites

Please explain to me what is the advantges/disadvantages of Prepreg (Pre-Impregnated composite material) over any other form/method of Composite manufacture.


Dont make post if you dont want an informed reply


carbonblack

carbonblack wrote:With a relatively flat panel you can get the weave to flow in straight lines

Evidently based on the pictures of your work, you can't though, that's the point I made first. If you can acheive matching the same finish\quality of the OEM panels, then you will have a marketable product, however I fear based on the current product, you will have limited appeal.

carbonblack wrote: Your still missing the point m8. I dont think you have tried the little exersise.

I think he has... http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... torder=asc

them pictures are my first atempt never done it before
and i dont know that much of carbon fibre but when they made oem panels do u think audi would have acepted work like that and a excuse like u cant get the weave straight i dont think so
u have 22 years in carbon

I'm with the others, my first attempts were better too. If its not straight is scrap IMO.

Audi panels are obviously made of dry carbon, and from scratch. If you take one of them and look at the underside, you'll see what I mean. PROPER carbon...top or bottom. And yes being Audi, it has to be to a standard.

I'm with carbonblack.....doing parts like this with curves, and recesses, is very difficult. I should know as we are had trouble recently with the lower trim on the B7 RS4 wheel.

Virdee Autos wrote:Audi panels are obviously made of dry carbon, and from scratch. If you take one of them and look at the underside, you'll see what I mean. PROPER carbon...top or bottom. And yes being Audi, it has to be to a standard.

I'm with carbonblack.....doing parts like this with curves, and recesses, is very difficult. I should know as we are had trouble recently with the lower trim on the B7 RS4 wheel.

Thanks for the support.. Finally someone who understands the issues with Composites etc.

I do actually make these items as stand alone carbon parts through & through panels, but I do bond O/E Audi fittings that I salvaged from new replacement panels/parts that I buy in from Audi. Doing this makes fitting of the carbon parts a doddle for the customers.

I also make parts for Audi S5, R8, Lotus, Honda, Ferrari, Porsche, Lambogini, Subaru, Range Rover, Land Rover Sport, Toyota, MG, VW & more.

I also make parts & tooling for Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, & other Aerospace/Military Companies that I'm not allowed to disclose....


Carbonblack

Yeah,i did think you were getting a bit of grief,If people don't like them then don't buy them.Simple

Jules wrote:Yeah,i did think you were getting a bit of grief,If people don't like them then don't buy them.Simple

Sorry if I was misunderstood, but I thought this and other similar websites are 'forums' for discussion and opinion?
Carbonblack is 'in the carbon-fibre industry' and is offering items for sale, demonstrated by his examples, (of which I'm sure are his best efforts) and based on like for like comparison with the OEM RS4 items, the finished product simply isn't as good.

Only through the process of discussion has it now become evident that there are different approaches to manufacturing, materials and fabrication which culminates in different levels of achievable finish.

Simple indeed.