Missfires ??

2.7 V6 30v biturbo - 380 bhp
dr.sah
Neutral
Posts: 17
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:28 pm

Missfires ??

Post by dr.sah » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:41 pm

I have missfires on my RS4 B5 2001, the main problem is 5th cylinder, the rest are not a problem. I see those missfires if I leave car running, and if i drive they are gone.
Does anybody have the same situation?

Image

User avatar
Contigo
Top Gear
Posts: 1728
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:32 pm

RE: Missfires ??

Post by Contigo » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:49 pm

Is that what VAGCOM is saying? Could be boost leak or suchlike.
2001 Avus Silver RS4 B5 60k on clock, MRC Custom Remap, Sunroof, Bluetooth prep

2006 Daytona Grey RS4 B7, RNS-E - SOLD

2006 BMW M6 - GONE

User avatar
Virdee Autos
Trader (Expired)
Posts: 2546
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:27 pm

RE: Missfires ??

Post by Virdee Autos » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:11 pm

Are you looking at the misfire counter on measured block values? If so, then mine breads a few when left to idle, and resets back to zero, and so on. Nothing to worry about unless your engine light comes on due to this
Virdee Autos ~ 07950-526592

Noggy Blue RS4 - 710N's | Supersprint Exhaust | RS6 Calipers/RS4 Discs | Aero Wipers | B7 rear wiper | Pioneer AVIC-F10BT | Alcantara dash | Alcantara headlining | 15mm spacers | Pentagon Tints/Supaglass | After-run mod | Carbon steering wheel | R8 engine bay caps | Brushed Alu plate plinth |

dr.sah
Neutral
Posts: 17
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:28 pm

RE: Missfires ??

Post by dr.sah » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:40 pm

Yes, it is like you said. But sometimes I got yellow light, for day or two, and than turn it off by her self. Last time I got the light when i have driven downhill for 3-4 kliometres. Also sometmes tha car is a little nervous at 800rpm.

I know that couldn't be something big, but I want to fix that, if i could.

User avatar
Contigo
Top Gear
Posts: 1728
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:32 pm

RE: Missfires ??

Post by Contigo » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:27 pm

These cars are pretty lumpy on tickover/idle and the revs do seem to jump a bit.
2001 Avus Silver RS4 B5 60k on clock, MRC Custom Remap, Sunroof, Bluetooth prep

2006 Daytona Grey RS4 B7, RNS-E - SOLD

2006 BMW M6 - GONE

User avatar
DutchRS4
1st Gear
Posts: 56
Joined: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:21 pm
Location: The Netherlands
Contact:

RE: Missfires ??

Post by DutchRS4 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:13 am

Yeah, mine acts the same. Don't worry. It's the character of the beast :)
It just hates to stand still and screams of joy when feeding boost. :)
2001 Avus Silver RS4 with 60k miles
100 cpsi full Milltek
710N DV
Awe Tuning Center Vent Boost Gauge
N249 delete

User avatar
grizz
Cruising
Posts: 4074
Joined: Sun May 30, 2004 9:40 pm
Location: Unit 20 0151 33 66 888

RE: Missfires ??

Post by grizz » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:13 am

What's your fuel trim like ?? Take a look at block 032 , It's short & long term fuel trim .
Unit 20
0151 3366888
The northwest's only dedicated 'RS' repair centre.
Image
http://www.facebook.com/pages/unit-20/104343529619713

User avatar
Virdee Autos
Trader (Expired)
Posts: 2546
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:27 pm

RE: Missfires ??

Post by Virdee Autos » Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:26 pm

Maybe check that the spark plugs are fully tight. There have been known issues of some becoming loose!
Virdee Autos ~ 07950-526592

Noggy Blue RS4 - 710N's | Supersprint Exhaust | RS6 Calipers/RS4 Discs | Aero Wipers | B7 rear wiper | Pioneer AVIC-F10BT | Alcantara dash | Alcantara headlining | 15mm spacers | Pentagon Tints/Supaglass | After-run mod | Carbon steering wheel | R8 engine bay caps | Brushed Alu plate plinth |

dr.sah
Neutral
Posts: 17
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:28 pm

RE: Missfires ??

Post by dr.sah » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:02 pm

i think they are Ok, because we put them out, to check it. In this days I will get new one.

User avatar
wozza
Neutral
Posts: 25
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 3:46 pm

RE: Missfires ??

Post by wozza » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:09 am

I've managed to clear up quite a few misfire issues - checking the usual out on these first i.e - duff coil packs, duff amps, vac and boost leaks, spark plug tightness, maf knacked.

I then went onto contact cleaning all the ignition amps and the maf contacts and also using high tension silicone grease to prevent arcing along the spark plug boot. Which substantially helped out - I still get the odd hiccup but nothing like before. Considering that the contact cleaner and grease is a couple of quid - its worth a shot before purchasing expensive items..

One other trick (I saw whilst at MRC) was to tweak the "Torque on Idle" setting - altering the timing slightly on idle. Also helps with the stammer that can happen when pulling away in first gear.

Obviously - checking for duff amps can be done just by swapping em over and seeing if the prob moves if it's one bank that plays up

jojostar
Neutral
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:28 am
Contact:

RE: Missfires ??

Post by jojostar » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:57 pm

In my case it was a small crack in the cylinderhead (within normal tolarences) which caused missfires.

User avatar
TopBear
4th Gear
Posts: 924
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:41 am
Location: Glasgow

Re: RE: Missfires ??

Post by TopBear » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:21 pm

jojostar wrote:In my case it was a small crack in the cylinderhead (within normal tolarences) which caused missfires.
Interesting, how did you find that out?

Where are the tolerances specified.
:blackrs4: B5 RS4, MRC Remap, Milltek, RS6\B7 Brakes, Black\Carbon

jojostar
Neutral
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:28 am
Contact:

RE: Re: RE: Missfires ??

Post by jojostar » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:19 pm

The "crack" if you can call it that was caused by a mapping session the did not turn out to be as good as it should be. After the session the engine running on idle was very very bad noticing the misfires out of the exhaust. At the moment the right side cylinderhead has been replaced and instantly (the right exhaust pipe did not show any misfires ) i have a custom spilt exhaust. As far as i've read tolarences are a couple of milimters (according to Audi). I think there are a couple of example pictures here on the site.

chancha
Neutral
Posts: 29
Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2004 12:43 pm

Re: RE: Re: RE: Missfires ??

Post by chancha » Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:46 pm

jojostar wrote:The "crack" if you can call it that was caused by a mapping session the did not turn out to be as good as it should be. After the session the engine running on idle was very very bad noticing the misfires out of the exhaust. At the moment the right side cylinderhead has been replaced and instantly (the right exhaust pipe did not show any misfires ) i have a custom spilt exhaust. As far as i've read tolarences are a couple of milimters (according to Audi). I think there are a couple of example pictures here on the site.

When you mention misfiring on idle, was it misfiring or popping? I've noticed this on mine on the over-run.

User avatar
Doug_S2
Trader (Expired)
Posts: 1756
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:57 pm
Location: Banbury
Contact:

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Missfires ??

Post by Doug_S2 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:35 pm

just use a wideband and see the mixture on idle to see if it ia mixture problem. then see if the car is running strange timing or differing loads on idle.

check cams
S2 Coupe : S4 B5 WB : RS6 C5 : S4 B8 : R8 V8 Turbo : Q7 4.2 TDI

http://www.MRCtuning.com
http://www.facebook.com/mrctuning

Post Reply

Return to “RS4 (B5 Typ 8D) 1999-2001”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 62 guests