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RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:14 pm
by rs-mad
Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone can tell me the max boost that they have found they can run with a pair of RS6 turbos (not hybrids) while maintaining efficency?

TIA
RS-MAD

RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:56 pm
by okkim
You should ask max mass airflow, because basically the boost doesn't mean anything. Then you can compare boost if the engine is totally same, and also the hot side of the turbo. Because the pressure comes from restriction, if the engine flows freely, you can't get boost at all, but the air mass is big.

RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:55 am
by rs-mad
Okkim - Thanks do you now the max mass airflow the turbos are good for?

RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:52 am
by okkim
No, sorry. You have to read the RS6 compressor map and calculate.

RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:02 pm
by spen
From the RS6 turbo: K04-29 map whilst keeping the efficiency >70% or better

max pressure ratio: 2.7 @ 0.155 m3/s airflow by volume @ max shaft speed 167,000 rpm
ie max boost 25 psi

max flow rate: 0.175 m3/s airflow by volume @ pressure ratio 2.21 @ shaft speed 156,000 rpm
ie around 200 g/s (or 400 g/s for two , or even 510 bhp)

If you forget about the efficiency, run the compressors off the map, and deal with the heat, on my S4 heads / intake / exhaust combo the RS6 turbos could make 613.93 bhp assuming VE of my combo doesn't change from current (in reality it would).

It's all numbers and theory, and I could have got it wrong on my scrap of paper!. You're probably better off fitting them and measuring EGT, exhaust manifold pressure and intake temp. Stop when one of these gets too high.

RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:05 am
by flashyg
I got 480 on the maf from memory!
Low egts,intakes and healthy timing. No water injection.
The turbos will go more but may not last or be as efficient.
Car did 518 bhp@TW with 1.9 P to 1.5 RL in 3rd.
Loving it, shreds rear tires in 3k too.

Re: RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:50 am
by rs-mad
flashyg wrote:I got 480 on the maf from memory!
Low egts,intakes and healthy timing. No water injection.
The turbos will go more but may not last or be as efficient.
Car did 518 bhp@TW with 1.9 P to 1.5 RL in 3rd.
Loving it, shreds rear tires in 3k too.
What car do you have? 518hp is that Flywheel or Wheels?

Re: RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:16 am
by Jarv
rs-mad wrote:
flashyg wrote:I got 480 on the maf from memory!
Low egts,intakes and healthy timing. No water injection.
The turbos will go more but may not last or be as efficient.
Car did 518 bhp@TW with 1.9 P to 1.5 RL in 3rd.
Loving it, shreds rear tires in 3k too.
What car do you have? 518hp is that Flywheel or Wheels?
'TW' = The Wheels.

RE: Re: RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:13 pm
by Hutch
Dyno setting on shoot6F AND done in 3rd gear. Anyone would think you're trying to cheat the numbers G :wink:

Nice MAf reading :bowdown:

Re: RE: Re: RE: RS6 Turbos - Max Boost

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:52 pm
by flashyg
Hutch wrote:Dyno setting on shoot6F AND done in 3rd gear. Anyone would think you're trying to cheat the numbers G :wink:

Nice MAf reading :bowdown:

But I'm not .You cheeky little minx. We all know shoot 44 gives bigger FW figures. I don't need em. :lol:

In fourth Ill have more Poower!

Who's got a big wheel power then :assflash: .That's all that matters no water injection either!!. Sorry just enjoying the moment.
Watch out a k16 car could be along any minute to get me, never the biggest fish...Satins child, Andy even, Stevey.DDave the list goes on.
Good luck to all.
G

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:56 pm
by quattronutter
i have some k16s looming for next year 8)

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:15 am
by flashyg
Lucky boy. You'll love em.
Go on, go on as Mrs Doyle would say.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:52 pm
by Hutch
Who's got a big wheel power then
Only joshing you bud, I'm just jealous!

I can see a fast and furious race coming up, lets just hope that yellow Elise from Spa isn't around!

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:58 pm
by grizz
I can see a head to head with "hutch & flashyg " at rs246 live ..

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:02 pm
by flashyg
What memories we have. That big moment an the medium shekane at the end of the straight. That was good fun. Supercharged fiberglass buckets are definitely quick. You did the right thing though. What fun.