tramlining in RS4

Post by **itaplikeabiatch** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 12:54 pm

is it just me or do ppl experience tramlining in the rs4?
by this i mean ur driving along and u hit some grooves and the car moves sideways while the steering wheel jerks around.
is it the size of the tyres, the quattro system, do i need a wheel alignment, etc
i await ur answers ppl.
will

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Post by **PhilT** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:15 pm

What tyres are you running? I had huge problems with Dunlop SP9000.

Post by **FatBoy** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:16 pm

Hi,
Chances are it's you tyres, and if you have Pirelli P-Zeros fitted, it's definitely your tyres...they're crap. [img]images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
I had exactly the same problem, especially under braking. I had the wheels laser-aligned and it made no difference.
I then changed to Michelin Pilot Sport 2s and the difference was incredible, it was like driving a different car. They are also smoother and quieter [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Cheers
Paul

Post by **Jon** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:27 pm

i second that....burn the pzero's [img]images/graemlins/flamethrower.gif[/img]

Post by **JJRS4** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:49 pm

It's the effect of driving a 4 wheel drive with wide tyres.

Ever drive a front wheel drive with a limited slip diff? - same thing.

Post by **itaplikeabiatch** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:55 pm

so r u saying that with any tyres on it there would be no difference?
i got p zero rossos on it, the car came with them when i bought it.
i guess ill check out the pilot sports or the S02's when i get new tyres.
thanks guys

Post by **Steve_Mc** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:08 pm

Tramlining also a byproduct of worn tyres. I recently replaced my MPS1s with new MPS1s, all tramlining instantly gone [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

Post by **RobK** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:29 pm

It's pretty bad on mine with S-03s. I don't remmeber it being a problem when I had Pilot Sports on there.

Post by **kcsun** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:31 pm

Spooky [img]images/graemlins/spineyes.gif[/img]

My Pirellis were aweful but since changing to SO3's it is almost perfect

kc [img]images/graemlins/s4anogaro.gif[/img]

Post by **Golich** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:35 pm

It's those bloody part worn P zeros - they're rubbish.

I noticed them the very momement I drove my now 1month owned beast [img]images/graemlins/clap.gif[/img].

See further down for comments some of the lads on here have mad ein the past. I got these by searching through the posts.

I used to notice a marked decline in the response of the the rear suspension in my previous S4. Traveling over certain pot holes gave the sensation something was wrong with the back of the car. I had a four wheel alingment done and it checked out fine.

Changing to new tyres made a huge difference. Also swapping to RS4 suspension improved it again.

As for whether the quattro is to blame. I doubt it, as the last time I felt tramling was 10 years ago in my Ford Orion injection on cheap tyres. My mates at the time also complained of tramlining. Clearly some tyres with less than new tread are prone to it.

Not Bushy's commment about sticking with Audi's recommened rating [img]images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Bushy said:
Michellin Pilot Sport - good all rounder lasted 15k miles and 1 track day (my favourite of the lot and had 3 sets, would like to try Pilot Sport 2's, but too bloody expensive!!!)
unknown said,
Toyo T1-S - good all rounder lasted 11k miles and 1 track day

Now got being fitted as we speak Yokohama AML and will let you know how i get on with these

2nd opinion Michelin Pilot Sport 2... my best tyres ever

heard good things about Avon ZZ3 but no one tried

Bushy also said: Audi request to comply with the bendy wheel thing that we use 94Y load index, SO3's and Toyo only offer 90Y rating for the standard 255 35 18 rims

Not sure how people feel about this but it seesm that the S03 are a superior tyre to some of the tyres that alledgedly meet the requirement

Steve said goodyear eagle f1's £170 each

Barry said
Really really rate the Michelin Pilot Sport 2's expensive but seem really well suited to our greasy wet scottish roads best tyres for the standard 18's IMHO. Didn't really rate the dunlops much over the pirellis either.

Post by **NigelJ** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:48 pm

It's the Pirellis. I had the same and changed to Goodyear F1's and the prob immediately went away.
[img]images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
NigelJ

Post by **JAMES** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:50 pm

i have part worn pilot sports and cant compare to any other tyres as i have only driven the rs4 on these.i can relate to some steering pull over bumps,pot holes ect.which can seem to throw you off course and makes the steering go very light and hard to keep straight.
i can only assume there is either a damper which needs replacing regularly or it is just a characteristic of the rs which can be improved or worsened depending which tyres are used. [img]images/graemlins/rant.gif[/img]
only my opinion [img]images/graemlins/062802beat_prv.gif[/img]

Post by **ianw** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:38 pm

but slow to reply , but I have the same problem with the p zeros and when I swap to winter wheels it goes away.

Post by **Golich** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:34 pm

James don't fret it's not the dampers it's the tyres. [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

Post by **Joules** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:40 pm

I have run Goodyear F1's on 19" rims for the 12 months and found them to be excellent.

Joules

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