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E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 6:36 pm
by Joules
Just wondered how a stock RS4 compares with an E39 M5?? anyone had any actual encounters??

It seems common knowledge that a modded RS can easily embarrass an M5...

Joules

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 10:24 am
by JJRS4
I have been round a track with an M5. Cars were let off at 5 sec intervals. The M5 was 3 cars ahead of me. I managed to catch and overtake it after 4 laps.

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:14 am
by castor
I have been round a track with an M5. Cars were let off at 5 sec intervals. The M5 was 3 cars ahead of me. I managed to catch and overtake it after 4 laps.

And you think that say all about the car?

Colud you tell at which track it was and how long was this track and I would like to know what time do you drive at Nordschleife with your RS4 ?.(Asking about this track coz of your avatar [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])


Coming back to subject...

...M5 and stock RS4 are very similar, RS4 is a litle beat faster and a beat more elastic.
M5 has more power and more torque but has also more weight.
Every each Kilogram of M5 is moved bei 4,6PS and of RS4 bei 4,4PS. Bei Accelerating 0-200KM Rs4 wins allmost 2s.

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:11 pm
by JJRS4
Whoever you are who can't spell, the original post asked for actual encounters. Well, I have had one. If you don't like the fact the RS4 was faster, its tough luck.

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:24 pm
by castor
Whoever you are who can't spell,
the original post asked for actual encounters. Well, I have had one. If you don't like the fact the RS4 was faster, its tough luck.
Ok I can't spell but you can't read [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I've asked you something. On which track it was and how long was this track?

The secound question you didn't answer was What time you did with your RS4 on the Nordschleife?

And the last thing is I didnt say that M5 is faster that RS4!

[img]images/graemlins/biggrin3.gif[/img]

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:25 pm
by runrowsam
How good's your German spelling mate?! [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] The RS4 will get to 30 or so much faster than the M5, but I think after about 100mph the M5 will pull away. Only judging on having been in a virtually M5 spec car with simlar power etc. (it was a 540 that'd been beefed up), following an RS4. It's a close run thing though, but the RS4 corners a lot more smoothly and with more grip. That said the M5 is some car.

Rock on
Sam [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:42 pm
by JJRS4
Wirklich ist mein deutscher spelling nicht schlecht. Vor er fügte seine deutsche position nur einigen minuten hinzu.

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:50 pm
by runrowsam
Oh arse! Why'd you have to be someone who can sprechen a bit of the ol' Deutsch?! Hehehehe. Well, you get my point anyway mate!

Es ist mir scheissegal oder?!

Rock on
Sam [img]images/graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 5:02 pm
by castor
Vor er fügte seine deutsche position nur einigen minuten hinzu.

Ich glaube das wird kein Schwein verstehen.


Dont be ashamed and tell me what times you're driving on the Nordschliefe...or maybe you've never been driving there?

What I was trying to tell you is that RS4 is only 3s.faster then M5 at the Nordschleife. And on the ~ 3km track it was just 0,3s.

So as you see between this both cars is not the performace important. The drivers quality counts.

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:50 pm
by dog
Doesn't "Schwein" mean "pig"?
I am not fluent in german ( in case you are wondering)

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:59 pm
by donrs4
May I offer some clarifications from a neutral swiss perspective:

" Das wird kein Schwein verstehen" is a standard colloquial expression in German(y) meaning

"Nobody will understand that".
Literally: "No-pig will understand that".
The pig part is NOT an insult in the standard expression.

Just a brief intervention in the hope to refocus the discussion on car/driver performance and not escalate...


enjoy your day
d. [img]images/graemlins/3flypigs.gif[/img]

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:50 pm
by castor
I couldn't explain it better.

Thanks donrs4

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:35 pm
by PhilT
The secound question you didn't answer was What time you did with your RS4 on the Nordschleife?

Only having driven round the Ring a few times (On the same day!!), I wonder what markers are used to measure the lap time?

Re: E39 M5 Vs stock RS4??

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:46 pm
by castor
You need to use your own laptimer.