Movit v Porsche brakes

[JohnW]

Gav,

if you find out about those Phaeton cooling ducts (part #s & prices) can you post them up please.

Cheese,
John.

[JohnBlade]

Quick question : When changing OE brakes to an upgraded kit what happens to the brake wear sensors ?

[sitas3]

Quick question : When changing OE brakes to an upgraded kit what happens to the brake wear sensors ?

previously I have blanked the sensor wire off by joining both wires.

[DaveP]

On the Movit 6 pots you can actually keep the wear sensors if you want...personally I've just wired them up, as makes it easier to swap pads without having to worry about the fiddly little buggers!

[JohnW]

I simply tie-wrapped the original sensors up out the way.
the guy at the Mot station commented on this but I told him I regularly check my brakes anyway and it is not an Mot failure.

I could have fitted them to the porker road pads but they won't fit to the track pads.

[TarmacTerrorist]

Nordydudey,

1. New Daz, old Daz.....So long as I get my whites white I'm happy Most of us on here are still using the old daz. The two that I know using the new stuff haven't hung their smalls out yet to give us all a good look.

2. Holes a hole mate, sorry if my definition is not correct. I did know they were cast in btw (and the reasons why), but I think common reference to that type of design is 'cross drilled'. Anyhow's the main purpose of having holes in the disk is to allow hot gases to evacuate that are generated when the pad and disc make contact. Thinking about it now even, if there is enough airflow travelling through the vein at the time of braking, it will probably create a venturi effect internally over face of the holes sucking the gases out (and brake dust)... Probably why they block up so quickly when not on track as they are not getting used to the capacity they should be (repeated hard braking from high speed).

3. I have done many trackdays on standard brakes. They work and will bring your speed down quickly. How long they last out there is a completely different matter.

4. Race brakes for your road car, road brakes for you race car..... same thing isn't it? I would say 1500 miles road use = 1 days racing

5. Noise? I hear no noise, except a mouse. A mouse.....Where? There on the stair. Where on the stair? Right there! A little mouse with clogs on, standing right there, going clip clippidy clop on the stair.

6. Even boat ancors have to work to a certain extent... we dont want 100,000 tonne oil tankers floating around willy nilly now do we?

7. Well if were talking hideously modified then I'm sure I could come up with something that will do the job in half the time for a fraction of the price. Hmmmmmm, now where would I go about getting one of those retro firing rockets packs that the russians use when parchuting in a 50t tank (rig it up like nitro but on the brake pedal)...

Sorry mate, I certainly dont mean to be offensive towards you in some of my responses to your post, it's just that some of your claims are lacking the patter to back them up, instead your always reffering to what evryone else is doing all the time, never yourself.

Love you to sweetie. :bigkiss:

[johneroberts]

Gav
with u on this mate...
cripes how many times does this need disscussion
yawn
jr

[TarmacTerrorist]

Always love talking brakes mate. Lets face it, the car can stop quicker than it can go.. so in a sense can give a bigger thrill.

[Nordschleife]

Nordydudey,


7Sorry mate, I certainly dont mean to be offensive towards you in some of my responses to your post, it's just that some of your claims are lacking the patter to back them up, instead your always reffering to what evryone else is doing all the time, never yourself.

Love you to sweetie. :bigkiss:

Your tone is offensive.

I have posted at length about what I have done and my experiences, I was trying to avoid repeating myself.

As you say, you often regret what you say, well you may reflect on that.

R+C

[JohnBlade]

Steady on gentlemen........feel guilty for bringing up the subject now.

[TarmacTerrorist]

No worries there at all John, the forum craves for a little heated debate every once in a while, just so long as it is constuctive and doesn't end up in a match of hurling obscenities at each other then it's cool.

Northloop,

Although I may regret something I say it doesn't mean it should not have been said.

Yes, you have put up good information in the past, but that is where it is - In the past! There are many new users here on the site every day and with the total amount of posts we now have, finding good information through he search engine is not always productive. Besides it may be information that you are not necessarily looking for but is interesting to read all the same. Of course there are going to be members on here who have heard it all before but I will bet that there are at least 4 times as many who haven't and will actually be interested to here what you have to say especially when you are condenming something as critical as the brake system so easily.

What I post up may or may not be correct and I will always be open for being told I am wrong about something, especially if someone is prepared to give an explanasion why.

Gavin. J

[JohnBlade]

Gavin....yes some topics must be quite 'repetitive' for the original members as all of us new members need to catch up...fast.But must admit,eye-catching reading.Keep it up and my eyes will keep glued to the screen !

[johneroberts]

Nordydudey,


7Sorry mate, I certainly dont mean to be offensive towards you in some of my responses to your post, it's just that some of your claims are lacking the patter to back them up, instead your always reffering to what evryone else is doing all the time, never yourself.

Love you to sweetie. :bigkiss:

Your tone is offensive.

I have posted at length about what I have done and my experiences, I was trying to avoid repeating myself.

As you say, you often regret what you say, well you may reflect on that.

R+C

Robin has been a very valuable contributor to RS4.Org and RS246, his expirience is vast and should be taken seriously, maybe its very difficult for some of us "old boys" to keep on answering the same questions, afterall thats what the SEARCH facility is there for.
Cheers
jr

[911TT_STEVO]

just glad it ain't anything to do with me again!!

I have plenty to say but I usually keep most of it to myself now after someone told me to shooo away!

[DaveP]

May as well add in my experiences...

Going back to the original braking system...we were also told by Guido at Movit last year that the design of the discs was a big limiting factor to the performance of the standard equipment. The fact that the center of the disc is solid means the heat dissipation is not as good as it could be (even thought the material they are made from is apparently good quality, so both TT and Nordy maybe correct in their opinions of the discs), which will eventually cause problems with repeated heavy use ...anyone that's had a very spirited drive on the road with standard discs/pads I think will have experienced this.

On actual braking performance, I was mighty surprised at LeMans last year, when Marc Duez showed what the standard braking system is capable of (after turning off ESP) at the end of the long straight !! - Outbraking all sorts of machinery - but then he only did two laps in the car and I think he'd have been in the gravel trying that after a couple more laps.

I think how you use/abuse the brakes also has a massive effect on braking performance....late and hard seems to be the way to do it if you want to preserve good braking performance (which seemed a bit crazy to me when I first heard it).

Ahh, brakes,brakes...everyone seems to have troubles with brakes...even CSL owners complain about their brakes...