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Agreed mate Haldex is far from perfect but it's getting better, I'm looking to get a performance controller which should sort out the understeer even more, the 8P isn't perfect by far but I like the little RS and a few tweaks should sort the handling out, engine and box are outstanding and I'm not a...

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Well mate I like it and at the end of the day all RS models have their bad sides, it's all down to personal preference and the word is understeer is practically non existent with stiffer ARB

Stiffer ARB on rear end sorts the understeer out, I do however agree that the Torsten system is great having had a B5 S4 Avant but I find the Haldex system has evolved well and having had both an S3 and a 4motion with the original Haldex unit I can see it's greatly improved and works well when needed

Nothing wrong with the 8P RS3 apart from the understeer issue which is a quick mod to rectify, I've had mine since Xmas and I love her, pop over to the RS3 forum and ask the boys what they think mate