To VAG-Com users, FATS times database for the Euro S4s

[cpufreak]

I love cold weather, adjusted my revo settings via sps to boost 8, timing 6 this morning. outside temperature was 4 degrees...air con (well heater) was on..and over 3 runs over the same stretch of 'flat private road' I averaged 4.59 seconds for the fats run.

best run was 4.46 seconds:

Group A: 003
Engine speed Mass air flow Throttle angle Ign timing
TIME g/s 0-5deg=closed deg
STAMP /min g/s % °BTDC
751.04 3080 9.81 5.5 13.5
751.95 3160 120.28 100 18
752.86 3600 170.64 100 9.8
753.77 4120 206.78 100 7.5
754.72 4680 242 100 9
755.72 5200 250.17 100 12
756.76 5760 259.47 100 16.5
757.88 6240 259.75 100 15.8
759.01 6720 252.69 100 20.3
760.14 7080 249.97 100 20.3
761.26 7120 53.31 17.3 33.8


Car has: Revo, Milltek full system, green panel filter, and was running tesco 99 octane fuel.

logging the CF factors for timing underload with my settings:

020 Group C: 021
Cyl 1 Cyl 2 Cyl 3 Cyl 4 Cyl 5
TIME
CF CF CF CF STAMP CF
0 0 0 750.73 0 0
0 0 0 751.65 0 0
3 0 0 752.56 0 0
3 0 0 753.46 0 0
2.3 0 0 754.39 0 0
2.3 0 0 755.38 0 0
1.5 0 0 756.42 0 0
1.5 0 0 757.49 0 0
0.8 0 0 758.63 0 0
0 0 0 759.76 0 0
0 0 0 760.89 0 0


so pretty good, am impressed with tesco fuel, especially at 88.9p/litre

[DavidT]

I have just done a few runs with my car, now re-mapped by MRC after K04 upgrade at Dialynx:

3.70,
3.60,
3.62.
3.62

Driver, 3/4 tank of fuel, Optimax & Millers Octane Plus, 13c.

David

[Nige_RS4]

Good figures David - can you post your MAF & timings figures too pretty pls? What was your best run on K03's?

Nige.

[Dippy]

I hate you David.

[DavidT]

LOL I know you do Dave

[SimonS4MTM]

So David, what is the definitave list of parts for K04 upgrade?

[Nige_RS4]

Good figures David - can you post your MAF & timings figures too pretty pls? What was your best run on K03's?

Still waiting David

[Nige_RS4]

OK, as requested a while back, some RS4 figures (bear in mind the gear ratios are different, so it's not a direct comparison).

Stage 1 MRC = 3.58secs

time rpm maf wot timing
595.73 3200 117.03 100 25.5
596.33 3520 198.08 100 15
596.93 3960 227.5 100 7.5
597.55 4360 243.36 100 12
598.2 4800 273.83 100 15
598.87 5240 294.58 100 12.8
599.58 5720 314.58 100 15
600.31 6200 324.17 100 18
601.07 6600 348.72 100 21
601.82 7000 270.19 38.4 10.5

@Minhea, I need to get the turbos spooling up earlier - what do you suggest?

Nige.

[DavidT]

Good figures David - can you post your MAF & timings figures too pretty pls? What was your best run on K03's?

Still waiting David

Sorry, I'll dig them out.

[DavidT]

Nige, here is the K03 info. I reckon it had around 350bhp.

I did a few runs tonight, temp was 6c, full tank of fuel (optimax & millers octane booster) + fat driver and got: 4.85, 4.95, 4.88, 4.92, 4.96, 4.84, 4.86.

Here is the vag-com output from the first one:

111.22 2440 78.14 100 17.3
111.53 2520 97.94 100 16.5
111.84 2680 123.36 100 14.3
112.14 2840 152.28 100 12.8
112.44 3000 167.19 100 12
112.74 3200 177.44 100 9
113.05 3400 187.64 99.6 10.5
113.35 3600 196.53 100 10.5
113.65 3760 205.11 100 11.3
113.95 3960 209.08 100 9.8
114.26 4160 217.89 100 12.8
114.57 4320 223.17 100 11.3
114.89 4520 228.42 100 11.3
115.21 4720 233.47 100 13.5
115.54 4880 232.31 100 15
115.87 5040 236.72 100 13.5
116.21 5240 243.58 100 15
116.56 5400 249.61 100 15
116.91 5560 256.08 100 15.8
117.27 5720 256.81 100 17.3
117.62 5880 261.08 100 18
117.98 6040 264.47 100 19.5
118.35 6200 262.64 100 19.5
118.74 6320 262.64 100 21
119.12 6480 263.39 100 21
119.5 6600 259.75 100 24
119.87 6760 257.61 100 24.8
120.25 6880 260.11 100 25.5
120.63 6920 149.36 26.3 30.8
121 6920 27.92 11.8 50.3
121.37 6720 20.31 8.6 50.3


I am very happy with the numbers, just a bit worried that I did it wrong, so any input on them appreciated.

[DavidT]

Here is a K04 run at 3.6. That seems to be the average, I have some 3.50's and a 3.3

Time rpm Maf Th % Timing

1136.12 4160 260.44 100 10.5
1136.43 4440 281.83 100 9
1136.75 4680 301.92 100 8.3
1137.08 4880 297.53 100 12.8
1137.42 5120 301.92 100 12
1137.76 5320 307.64 100 13.5
1138.11 5560 323.33 100 12
1138.46 5760 333.25 100 14.3
1138.84 6000 335.36 100 16.5
1139.19 6200 335.36 100 16.5
1139.57 6400 335.36 100 18.8
1139.95 6600 335.36 100 17.3
1140.34 6800 335.36 100 19.5
1140.72 7000 335.36 100 24

[confusionhunter]

Went to do this in my Stock S4 and discovered my MAF is totally dead... I mean not reading low... But DEAD! Zippo coming from it..... Swapped it for a spare and that was reading low so unplugged it and it ran better again...

Got an MTM chip to put in once Ive pressure tested the Intake system. Got Reconned KO3s new DVs etc, samco F pipe, so all should be good. Did a compression test on the engine last night. All cylinders were pretty much bang on 150 PSI .... Im pretty chuffed.... Ive also got a G-tech that I need to dog out, so I'll do some runs in that too.... Im interested to know how is compares to the little polos...

[confusionhunter]

Did some times in my Std S4.... One I got was 6.9 with Me(90kg) boot of some stuff and half a tank.
Did another run at 6.4 on a slight downhill..... was 5degrees..... So it looks like its in keeping with the mods (ie none!). GOt an MTM chip to pop in, will be interesting to see what that does...

[confusionhunter]

Discovered a *slight* boost leak (one way valve below F pipe is on order)so MTM chip is on hold (FREE PLUG!!!Thanks to MInhea at MRC for helping to diagnose that)...... Also did 2 more runs with 1/4 tank still 5 degs, this time got 6.5 and a 6.43!! Very pleased. Decat pipe to come shortly......

[HK-Steve]

Well I ran my first FATS last night,
and I got a 7.5, not good

I have a ABT chip and max boost of 16psi, this is from my guage
no other mods.

I have a good TBB and replaced my BPV's last week, so all good there.
My MAF has failed, so I am running with it disconnected at the moment.

Minhea, do you have the Bosch units in stock???

I suspect that I have a big boost leak somewhere.
or something else really wrong.

My Requested Boost and Actual Boost are not close, see the VAG-Com log-
Here is what I am seeing with VAG-Com,
block 115
3rd gear run on the highway

RPM----Engine Load--Requested--Actual
2800---45.9---------950--------1050
2920---92.5---------1300-------1170
3240---178.2--------2130-------1850
3600---160.9--------2190-------1730
3960---156.4--------2190-------1720
4280---153.4--------2130-------1730
4680---145.9--------2060-------1720
5040---151.1--------1980-------1790
5400---148.1--------1910-------1800
5720---139.1--------1850-------1730
6000---135.3--------1810-------1720
6280---133.8--------1810-------1730
6520---135.3--------1810-------1760
6680---134.6--------1810-------1770
5480---11.3---------950--------1170




Cheers
Steve