Starting problem

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kopow
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Starting problem

Post by kopow » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:32 am

Recently my car has been having some strange issues starting. If the car is cold and I try to start it, on frequent occasions, the engine will turn over and runs for about a second or two then stalls. If I start it up again right after this, it runs without a problem. I also do not notice this problem if the car has already been driven or warmed up and started. Is this a sign of my starter staring to go bad, or is it an ignition or fueling issue. There are no problems driving the car and no codes coming up.

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Re: Starting problem

Post by Astrosquirrel » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:35 am

kopow wrote:Recently my car has been having some strange issues starting. If the car is cold and I try to start it, on frequent occasions, the engine will turn over and runs for about a second or two then stalls. If I start it up again right after this, it runs without a problem. I also do not notice this problem if the car has already been driven or warmed up and started. Is this a sign of my starter staring to go bad, or is it an ignition or fueling issue. There are no problems driving the car and no codes coming up.
Could be the Crank Position Sensor, could be a bad fuel pump, could be a weak battery. Start with the easiest path and scan it for codes.

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Re: Starting problem

Post by Mark-RS » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:10 am

I had a similar issue with mine which was a temperature sensor that was always reading as hot. So on a cold start up the car would not be given enough fuel for a cold start.

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Re: Starting problem

Post by Astrosquirrel » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:51 am

Mark-RS wrote:I had a similar issue with mine which was a temperature sensor that was always reading as hot. So on a cold start up the car would not be given enough fuel for a cold start.
Ah good point. Forgot about that one too. A scan would also help diagnosing that one.

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Re: Starting problem

Post by Shoppinit » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:56 am

Scan won't help if the temp values are not implausible.

Use VCDS to log the temperature of the 2 coolant temperature senders when cold to see what they are reading.

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Re: Starting problem

Post by steve2003rs6 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:06 pm

Mark-RS wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:10 am
I had a similar issue with mine which was a temperature sensor that was always reading as hot. So on a cold start up the car would not be given enough fuel for a cold start.
Hey mark. Yeah this was my problem a few months ago.
Changed the temp sensor and all was good again.

Also as shopp suggested.
Check the temps using VCDS.
My car was cold. But was saying something like 60 degrees IIRC.

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