the RS5 from OZ ...

[sakimano]

1. their phones are disconnected
2. they are not returning calls or PMs or emails on any forum/format
3. The following was just posted on Audirevolution by an S5 owner...very shady business from this Tony guy.

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.p ... 4#msg69824

Yes' I am in the same boat. Tony stopped replying to emails weeks ago. His explanation for the disconnected phone number was the fact they are moving shops and Verizon "screwed them" with the transfer. I asked a different forum member who knows him personally for his contact info and he was not allowed to give it out. I then asked him to give Tony my number again personally and have him call, text, or even return an e-mail. Weeks go by and multiple emails day after day with no reply.

At this point I was left with no choice but to ask his "acquaintance" to pass along a message that if I don't hear back from Tony immediately I would call the credit card company and dispute the purchase. Few minutes later I get a call I am not able to take from a blocked phone number. Few seconds later a get a voice mail "This is Tony from PES Tuning, sorry I missed you, I will try again later" no more, no less. With at big of a company as PES has become you would think the logical thing would be to leave a call back number. I then asked him to tell Tony again, that if I do not get a valid phone number I will proceed with the claim. Two days go by and nothing happens.

This morning I file a claim with e-bay/paypal, which is where I purchased the kit about 6 weeks ago. Immediately I get another call from a blocked phone number with the exact same voice mail and no contact info. This was then followed by an e-mail asking if this was actually my real number and for a time to call me back. Clearly, Tony does not want his phone number out there for the public. At this point I have asked him to not try to contact me at all from blocked numbers with pointless voice mails and communicate anything he has to say directly through the e-bay/paypal claim where everything could be documented.

I'm done playing games with this guy. The shop has moved, the phone number is disconnected, and the only times I seems to get a response is when I threatened to contact the CC/PayPal.

[marzz]

I'm not sure what you trying to start, but obviously got some issues with PES,
just spoke with Tony (PES), he normally responds to all my emails in timely manner, the PES is actually going really well, they just experienced some unfortunate logistic issues during their relocation to upgrade their premises.
their newest kits are awesome, I'm taking my beast again on the track, this time around on full blast.
PES just finalised their S5 kit and R8, which is going to be used by other car company, would leave it for Tony to formally release that info.
If you just put your money on one of their kits, I can assure you about no disappointment there, it may take a while to have it all finalised as it's not a huge company, great value for money I say.
the power on tap with this kit is just wow,

[chunky79]

Ha ha. Nice work marzz.

[S4Player]

Ha ha. Nice work marzz.

Read over on the yank forums, the pes situation is highly sketchy and several customers who bought a kit upfront many months ago have went through they're cc company for refunds. This is due to ZERO response from pes. I Don't think saki is witch hunting he's looking for genuine info from customers elsewhere around the world.

[chunky79]

Can't be arsed checking other forums, I'm way too lazy, and I don't have time. Strange that marzz spoke to them yesterday though. I'm only going on what was said here.
If they are going bump then that's turd. Hope people get their money back.

[S4Player]

Can't be arsed checking other forums, I'm way too lazy, and I don't have time. Strange that marzz spoke to them yesterday though. I'm only going on what was said here.
If they are going bump then that's turd. Hope people get their money back.

Very strange mate doesn't make for nice reading

[marzz]

wouldn't want to turn this thread into a beach about PES or any other tuner, no harm to start your own,
people got good and bad experiences with all tuners, including me, it has not been a milky way since the day one on this car but you got to account for problems here and there
no offence to anybody but internet opinions are like an ass wholes - everybody has got one ...

I'm not sure what's happening with communication to PES, can only confirm that Tony can be reached through various media,
If I can help anybody, feel free to contact me via PM/email whatever with your issue and I certainly pass that on to PES, by all means I'm not their dealer but customer.
if you need any support in regards to the PES RS5 kit, I'm happy to give you any info needed, PES has been very good for me since the day one,
I also had to wait for my kit for couple of months, those chargers are not something seating on shelfs in bulk, please have a good understanding of the whole process so there is no miscommunication later, PES does not produce the whipple chargers or coolant pumps, don't think they do in-house machining either, all of it takes time to come together from third parties, then it needs to be shipped to whatever part of the world you are from, two months for sure from the day you put the money down,
the kit is not easy to install either, quite different to B7 platform, you can easy run into several issues during install, the alignment of all parts is crucial here, anything wrong and you set back for a week or two.
Anyways,I can contact PES at any time just let me know what your problem is

[sakimano]

I'm not sure what you trying to start, but obviously got some issues with PES,
just spoke with Tony (PES), he normally responds to all my emails in timely manner, the PES is actually going really well, they just experienced some unfortunate logistic issues during their relocation to upgrade their premises.
their newest kits are awesome, I'm taking my beast again on the track, this time around on full blast.
PES just finalised their S5 kit and R8, which is going to be used by other car company, would leave it for Tony to formally release that info.
If you just put your money on one of their kits, I can assure you about no disappointment there, it may take a while to have it all finalised as it's not a huge company, great value for money I say.
the power on tap with this kit is just wow,

Not sure what my issue is? They have a history of blowing motors, and not delivering on hp claims...and now we can add taking people's money and vanishing. How about starting there? If Tony takes your calls that's because you're basically his marketing campaign. While I know what he told you sounded nice, let's have a dose of reality, shall we?

So they're just getting settled at their 'new location'? things are 'going very well'? Check out their new address - 4942 national St., Philadelphia, PA 19135 (see picture below)

1. their phones are still disconnected. As in haven't paid the bills disconnected

2. they're still in dispute with multiple people who are trying to get THOUSANDS back from them after PES went radio silence a while ago

Oh, and just so you can see how 'well' it's going, here's their supposed 'new location'. It's in a ghetto area of Philadelphia and an Audirevolution member went by to check the story out for the other S5 owner filing the claim. No sign of life, and certainly not an Audi within miles.

[bam_bam]

This.

wouldn't want to turn this thread into a beach about PES or any other tuner, no harm to start your own...

So, how about it, Half-Sak, I don't suppose you are going to leave this as a build thread?

[sakimano]

This.

wouldn't want to turn this thread into a beach about PES or any other tuner, no harm to start your own...

So, how about it, Half-Sak, I don't suppose you are going to leave this as a build thread?

of course. I just replied to marzz since he seemed a little fuzzy on the facts. I asked becuase I know he is their RS5 kit tester and one would think he would know how to reach Tony to help the people who can't find him.

[spinner]

Sorry to have to add another post on this matter but I'll make it short and sweet.... PES response here.... http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 7&start=15 (2nd post down by myself). Now onwards and upwards with your superb build thread Marzz

[marzz]

yes, I was first to test PES kit on track,
yes, I tested their kit in extremely hot situations over here,
yes, we tried several tunes to get the one working here properly,
yes, I'm extremely happy with what we've accomplished,
yes, I proposed to use my car for APR SC development couple years ago and got told to "go away"
yes, I wanted a SC kit on my RS since the day one, there was only PES who had the kit last year
yes, PES delivered the goods as promised, not particularly in the quickest time but as value for money hell yea it was a good deal
yes, that probably makes me a PES RS5 kit tester, and ...

I enjoy driving the car not bitching about tuners, they all the same, we all want what they have and they want all your money, that's how it works, if you got burned I feel for you I did too, not ones.

as I said before, all of those members who really can't get in touch with PES, contact me, I seem to have no worries with contacting Tony ...

Also, whatever PES is doing as business is none of my concerns, got bigger things to worry about, I'm not their dealer or promotor, just enjoying the current project.

Anyways, got few more updates to the car build, the beast just gotten even better

[sakimano]

I would love to see it at the strip . It will potentially be the fastest audi ever to run on pump gas. That's pretty amazing.

The kit appears to make (on the dyno) around the same power as the best b7 rs4 kits, which are high 10second, low 11 second cars in the 1/4 mile.

The dsg is incredible for acceleration so I can't wait to see.

It's either that or the Apr rs5.

If pes have finally got this right it would be epic to see it run.

[marzz]

I would love to see it at the strip . It will potentially be the fastest audi ever to run on pump gas. That's pretty amazing.

The kit appears to make (on the dyno) around the same power as the best b7 rs4 kits, which are high 10second, low 11 second cars in the 1/4 mile.

The dsg is incredible for acceleration so I can't wait to see.

It's either that or the Apr rs5.

If pes have finally got this right it would be epic to see it run.

men my car may be fast but that's way out of the hyper car league, my mate runs highly modded V8TT on his older RS6, swapped the gear box to manual from RS4, last time pulled over 1200Nm atw on pump gas, his car is an animal, next time we may drag against each other so will post the results,
the 10s B7s are highly modded cars with plenty of lighten JHM stuff, running slicks, no interior or exhaust, anyways doing 10s is a great effort for any street car,congrats to all of them,
the apr has not released any data on rs5 kit, by the look of things it will take them some time,
perhaps I've been to a strip with my car already, how do you know, I may be waiting for apr to go public first, may have a bomb up my sleeve waiting to be dropped,
also as value for money, the PES kit is like half price of the new apr b7 kit, which is $24k in Australia + new clutch, pumps etc, you looking at $30k + installation, so have about $35k laying around if you want to go apr with B7 platform,
say you don't change the clutch/pumps/fuel rials etc on RS5, but should upgrade the TCU at least, we still looking at $20k+ here, including install you be close to $30k, you do the maths with PES kit...

by all means, i'm not saying that pes kit is better cause I got nothing to compare to at the moment, but have tested the kit myself and know what I drive daily,
I'm bit busy at the moment so no time to put all the data for now but watch for the bomb coming ...

[sakimano]

I would love to see it at the strip . It will potentially be the fastest audi ever to run on pump gas. That's pretty amazing.

The kit appears to make (on the dyno) around the same power as the best b7 rs4 kits, which are high 10second, low 11 second cars in the 1/4 mile.

The dsg is incredible for acceleration so I can't wait to see.

It's either that or the Apr rs5.

If pes have finally got this right it would be epic to see it run.

men my car may be fast but that's way out of the hyper car league, my mate runs highly modded V8TT on his older RS6, swapped the gear box to manual from RS4, last time pulled over 1200Nm atw on pump gas, his car is an animal, next time we may drag against each other so will post the results,
the 10s B7s are highly modded cars with plenty of lighten JHM stuff, running slicks, no interior or exhaust,

Would be fun to see you race him. Most C5 RS6 are all talk and no action. He may race dyno sheets with you if he's anything like the C5 contingent here.

As for the 2 B7 RS4s that ran in the 10s you are right the Apr car did it on slicks, race fuel and no seats, no exhaust. Kind of a useless benchmark to me. It's not reflective of how we drive the car (I like seats lol). In Street trim with Street tires full interior and pump gas they went 11.18@125 so that's pretty excellent.

Jhm however went 10.9 full interior, full exhaust, 93 octane fuel (like uk99). I imagine the dsg can better that.

APR are really dragging their ass on the RS5 kit. Hell the B8 S4 guys are still waiting for stage 3. It should be called stage 3 years lol. They launched the 1740 kit for the rs4 and the r8 so far. Who knows on the others.