Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

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Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by drbru » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:51 pm

So i have literally spent months considering what to buy as my next car...The list originally consisted of the following but after driving them all, the M5 was the most obvious choice

C63 AMG estate
B8 RS4
RS6 (non the latest)
F10 M5

So after much searching for the right specced car and after much waiting for the car to be prepped and ready for me to view, I finally went up to Sytner Sheffield on the weekend to view and hopefully buy my M5 (2011) and buy I did...Big thumbs up to Andy from the delearship!

The train ride up was fairly nerve racking as im always a little dubious about buying a second hand car, especially one like this that costs so much but as soon as I saw the car I knew that she was the one...The delear had re-sprayed the rear bumper, added 4 new tyres and thoroughly detailed the car so she was looking as good as new so after a good test drive we did the deal and that was that! finally....

Now from the drive back from Sheffiled to London...Ill try to summarise my first impressions. Im coming from an RS4 avant, not as quick but still quick with the stability of 4wd so Im fairly used to quick cars

So....Wow this M5 is quick on a completely different level! Power delivery is just incredible at all levels within the rev range and the DCT is just brilliant, absolutely brilliant..

She definately feels like a large car and the fact that it is Rear wheel drive will take some getting used to on my part but overall I cant believe a car of this size can do what it can...

I have to admit, Im not sure I understand why so many people complain about the noise or lack of noise of the car...With the windows down, the noise of the turbo's spooling up with a hint of induction noise is just addictive and the cracks and bangs that go along with that completely took me by surprise in a good way....

On the other hand, she can be driven like a luxury car as my wife subsequently described even though my 4 year old boy kept shouting "FASTER FASTER DADDY, MUMMY DOES NOT WANT TO GO SLOW!"...they both approve!

One thing that did surprise me in a slightly negative way though, is how difficult it is to just plant it in first gear..The weather was lovely yesterday but even in dry conditions, I just couldnt get any real grip in first gear....Im hoping that this is because I have a new set of rubber and the tyres need some time to "bed in"

Looking forward to putting some miles on this now...Gonna detail the car properly using my own stuff and then get some proper pics up...Also got a trip to the Alpes coming up in July....think that is gonna be epic!

Some Final Remarks

M5
Brutal delivery of power
DCT gearbox is just incredible
A very diffferent but good sound compared to the RS4
Far more luxurious
Much better spec standard
More of a sleeper car

RS4
Nothing will touch the Quattro when its wet
Sounds like a v8 should with the Miltek
Very dated when comparing it directly to M5
Not as spacious compared to the M5 saloon

All in all, I will miss my RS4 but I know she has gone to a new home but I am very glad to have made the move...Im not sure anyone can appreciate this car until they have driven it first hand
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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by joinery80 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:27 pm

It would be interesting to hear ure thoughts on the m5 compared to the rs6
I am gonna get m5 but gonna hold out till November time as I reckon they will be 34-35 k as they are slowly creeping below 40 now :biggrin3: beutifull car pall

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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by Nickyboy » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:01 pm

Blimey they've dropped in price. I hope the RS 6 does the same.
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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by joinery80 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:28 pm

Same here pall. Thing is audis hold there money much better than the big beemers eh

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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by TimDogg » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:11 pm

16 mpg my mate said for the F10 - is this true?
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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by joinery80 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:23 pm

I heard they were quite good on fuel unlike the e60 I had 16 at best and a fuel tank the size of a pea lol :biggrin3:

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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by ROY » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:26 pm

TimDogg wrote:16 mpg my mate said for the F10 - is this true?
I get 17mpg urban only, I've done over 8000miles mostly driven with flappy paddles (Suspension Comfort - Steering Sport - Engine - Sport Plus)
Bang it on the motorway - North Manchester to Wembley and Back on a tank of fuel £95 ish (27mpg or thereabouts)

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Be careful - the thing is an animal - show it respect and get to know the weight balance and the physics of the car. In the dry its astonishing how small the car feels when pushing hard but in damp or wet conditions it soon changes and the F10 becomes a bit of a handful
One guy up near us wrote his off (3 x injured and 1 x KIA)
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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by wrekka » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:47 pm

Lovely car but again the rear wheeled drive only in our British weather would worry me.
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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by TimDogg » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:18 pm

Thanks for the mpg figures - apparently the tech and electronics in rwd cars nowadays means that you wouldn't notice the fact that it's rwd in the wet. Chris Harris said this about Porsche I believe. Still would prefer the RS in the wet tbh though.
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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by RIV » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:49 am

Thanks for the mpg figures - apparently the tech and electronics in rwd cars nowadays means that you wouldn't notice the fact that it's rwd in the wet. Chris Harris said this about Porsche I believe. Still would prefer the RS in the wet tbh though.
having had a few AMG's in the past I would say it doesn't matter about how much tech there is, your going to notice the traction control light flashing up on a regular basis on anything other than perfect driving conditions, it's not all about 0-60 and the sheer power of a car that makes it good there's a lot more to it than that, BM's do nothing for me whatsoever,they just look boring IMO, but we all have different tastes, one mans meat is another mans murder

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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by RS6chris! » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:51 am

Seen loads of these about?

Did BM flood the market?...intake it from new BM doesn't keep you waiting for months for a new one?

I've heard a few tales about it being an animal when you push on too.

It would bug me and be in the back of my mind everytime I pushed loud pedal, that I was going to get a tank slapper on?...nice car though...but for my ham fisted driving skills and the British weather and roads il stick with my 6.

Good luck with it... :beerchug:
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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by RS6chris! » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:57 am

Just looked at classifieds.

They really are approaching late 30,s early 40,s with a bit of haggling for an early car?


08 plate RS6,s are middle 30's!!!!!....maybe low with haggling.


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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by joinery80 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:48 am

That's right they are dropping like stones.
They do flood the market that's why they lose so much money in first 3 years
I am deffo gonna. Try one

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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by joinery80 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:53 am

There is actually one at a dealer at moment for 39950 with 42k on clock which is good value.
The Cars at dealer's seem to be going cheaper than other garages STRANGE

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Re: Review of my new car - F10 m5 vs B7 RS4

Post by S4WON » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:57 am

joinery80 wrote:There is actually one at a dealer at moment for 39950 with 42k on clock which is good value.
The Cars at dealer's seem to be going cheaper than other garages STRANGE
Perhaps they just have a better idea of depreciation yet to come....

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