Guy's, I need help on LED's and the best way to go??

[Audiyoudo]

Evening guys and girls....

Just upgraded to a 56 plate B7 RS4 Avant in the Phantom Black - She's a beauty!! Can't stop going out and taking her for a sneaky drive since picking her up on Saturday..... Had two TT's and my most recent submarine A3 sportback who came to her unfortunate demise through floods in our area!!

Anyway, firstly can I say Hi to everyone on here and thanks in advance if anyone can help??

I am looking to convert my existing lights with some form of LED running lights as the day-runners at pres are yellowy looking and I'd like them white. As too with the side lights which are the smaller lamps to the top of the lights.

Having read lots of posts from all sorts of sites, I am confused with different types of lights, there associated problems with faults in the dash and so on. Rather than try and question everything I have read, I think it will be easier to state my lights and let the experts advise from here?? I have the Xenon's with adaptive capability and they are self levelling. What options are available to me without buying cheap products and turning lights into cakes and baking them in ovens etc!! I do like the after-market lights with the LED strip running underneath but most of these do say they are not compatible with adaptive lights and Xenon? Are there any places near Bristol, UK that do professional conversions if that is my only option?

Also, I would like a custom LED appearance at the rear as it's all stock at pres. I notice on e-bay there are a few Aus sites doing several alternatives but what is the quality like?

I am prepared to go for OEM alternatives but who makes them and are they safe with Xenon light cars etc etc?

Can you help Auditonians out there???????

Many thanks and Audiyoudo!!!

[sync24]

PM forum member trupps who will sort u out an internal kit replacing all bulbs with LED equivalents.
There are some nifty LED tail lights available (see my previous posts). Finally source some PIAA bulbs and LED Replacements from somewhere like revolution247.com - just make sure you get CANBUS safe ones otherwise you will get bulb errors - I am in the process of replacing all my bulbs with LED's and still have some "challenges" to sort - PM me if u want any info - be happy to help.

Kev

[MikeFish]

If you want the easy way stick to the PIAA type bulbs as Kev suggested for the external lamps otherwise you will get errors or will need to add addittional resistors.
LEDs for interior are fine as they don't give errors. Trups or Revolution should be able to sort you out.
Rear LED clusters generally work quite well and make a big difference.
I got mine for BM Town (the audi version of their site, but don;t bother looking at it on an iPad as it doesnt work properly).
I got some LED number plate lights that don't give errors but it was a replacement unit rather than a lamp.

[Rick_RS4]

theres loads of threads on nront drls mine are led, ive changed the whole car to led bar the rear lights, you will need resistors for the front lights and for the numberplate lights

[F@tBoyF@t]

https://www.dectane.de/product_info.php ... anguage=en

I think P_G had these on his Avant, but I could be wrong.

[Batfinnk]

I've just purchased some PIAA bulbs for my drl's from another forum member. Just been out and fitted them in the dark using torch power to see. The drivers one is a complete pig to get to but managed it. They look much better than the normal yellow ones. Next on my list is some led rear light units

[Audiyoudo]

https://www.dectane.de/product_info.php ... anguage=en

I think P_G had these on his Avant, but I could be wrong.

Great help guys and thanks for taking the time to reply and offer advice..They look awesome and do they fit the Avant as well as the saloon??

Regarding the front lights, I've heard rumours that self levelling xenon's cause problems with replacement front light units, has anyone else heard of this or am I getting my wires crossed??

Thanks G

[F@tBoyF@t]

https://www.dectane.de/product_info.php ... anguage=en

I think P_G had these on his Avant, but I could be wrong.

Great help guys and thanks for taking the time to reply and offer advice..They look awesome and do they fit the Avant as well as the saloon??

Regarding the front lights, I've heard rumours that self levelling xenon's cause problems with replacement front light units, has anyone else heard of this or am I getting my wires crossed??

Thanks G

RTFI




PM P_G

[pDkALO]

Regarding the front lights, I've heard rumours that self levelling xenon's cause problems with replacement front light units, has anyone else heard of this or am I getting my wires crossed??

Yup, crossed wires - never heard of that, as you're only replacing a bulb with another bulb.

For the DRLs I'd suggest you go for PIAA if you want to be rid of the yellow look because they're a straight swap with no risk of DIS errors - the PIAAs actually have a slightly lower light output than the conventional halogens due to the blue and silver coating on them that makes them appear so white, but the whiter light makes them a bit more noticeable, which compensates. Fitting LED bulbs in the DRLs probably looks slightly better, but is a bit of a b@ll ache what with fitting the resistors properly - I've done LEDs, but prob wouldn't have done it if I'd known what a faff it was going to be

I really wouldn't go down the route of trying to fit any sort of B8 / R8 style fairy lights inside or next to the headlights 'cos chances are it will just look, well, wrong....

Oh and by the way, you seem to have been overlooked for a FON - so you've now got one!

Enjoy the car!

[Audiyoudo]

Guys, I was more interested in converting the original lights with new after-market LED type lights. I just assume that they will not be able to supply the self levelling option or adaptive option which they have on them at present.

I will probably opt for the DRL and side light LED lamps (with resistors) and hoping these come converted as a plug and play? Would also like to swap out the fog lights too as they seem a bit yellowy. I will almost certainly go for the rear LED lights as I think they look great but not sure on their brightness so if anyone has purchased these, how bright are they at night? Brake efficiency in the daytime and their brightness too??

Following all of this, I will then buy one of the bespoke sets which tailors all other lights in the vehicle i.e under doors, glove box etc with LED's too.

Thanks for your help so far guys, priceless information but that is why I joined..

PS and thanks for the FON, didn't have clue what it was until i went to the site rules and did make me chuckle.

Thanks Gary C
'Audiyoudo'

[pDkALO]

Guys, I was more interested in converting the original lights with new after-market LED type lights. I just assume that they will not be able to supply the self levelling option or adaptive option which they have on them at present.

I've not heard of such after market light that would work in the RS4? - suggest you post up a link to them and I'm sure you'll get opinions.

Re your DRL and sidelight question, it's been discussed many times over, so you're better off using the search function on the forum to find the previous threads. And btw, to save you the bother of searching, there isn't a "plug and play" DRL LED bulb solution that works in these cars - despite what many adverts might say with promises of "canbus error free" etc - you'll need to wire in separate resistors

[MikeFish]

You might find a set of headlights that has the right projection for xenons, but I've yet to see one for adpatives.
Come to think of it though, is the leveling and apdtive movement done my a motor on the light socket rather than the headlight unit? I'm assuming it is on the actua lheadlight unit otherwise we would be seeing more of the aftermarket headlights.
LED plug and play for the DRLs, sidelights and fogs are not easy. If you are lucky you will find a lamp that has a resistor built in (canbus, error free) and actually works. I've yet to find any that do (best I've got is work when cold but flag up errors when they get warmer). If you don't want a permanent error on your dash then you will need to buy some resistors and connect them yourself or try and find one of the pre-wired resistor type (which are external to the lamp) but then you need to find somewhere to store the resistor and the orignal wiring goes to this then new wiring to the headlamp. Too messy for me. I am living with the errors until I can find some true error free lamps (I have TPMS error too at the moment cos of the new wheels and I've lost my VCDS cable to disable the TPMS and the tyre shops were fully booked at the weekend so couldnt get my new sensors fitted).
Rear LEDs are fine for brightness. Need to be a little more on axis than with conventional lamps i.e. a truck sitting right on your bumper will struggle to see them but if he is that close then it is not an issue (and no-one ever sits on my bumper anyway, even less so since the exhaust was fitted, they just drop well back). All the ones I've see nalso have a couple of LEDs on the side so people at right angles to the car can see them too.





Internal LEDs are not alarmed so anyones will do, but becareful to get some that shine in the right direction. They are a doddle to fit. It's surprising how many lamps there actually are inside the car (2 on each door, 3 up the top at the fron, 2 up the top at the back, 2 in the footwells, the sunvisor mirrors etc).

[MikeFish]

[Audiyoudo]

Hey thanks for all of that Mike, lots of great advice there. Like you said, I'm not sure of the motorised side of things on the headlights for the adaptive settings but surely the after-market lights will not have this as since looking, I have seen sites mention with a of suitable for self levelling lights but nothing relating to adaptive lights??

RE: LED's elsewhere externally, all of these error codes seem worrying and I am amazed no-one has sussed this out yet on here but then if it was that easy, I suppose there wouldn't be sites like this to get over issues!!

Like the LED rears Mike awesome!!

Thanks to all to date G

[MikeFish]

I think you are right in that the adaptive movement part of the headlight itself.

I think mentioned it already but I found some number plate LEDs that don't throw any errors, bu last time I looked they had a newer version for sale in its place. It was about £30 for the pair on eBay.