Improving Track Performance

[weedub]

With my first C6 soon to arrive I was wondering what advice you might offer in terms of priorities in improving track performance. Anti roll bars, brakes, tyres, weight distribution?

[Trups]

Hi.

I dont think it could ever be a track car, its just too big and too heavy. straight line speed is immense.

Maybe another member may have more experience on if its a track car but i only went on a track for 10 mins in it and it did sturggle on corners against smaller cars.

Trups

[Ian_C]

The first mod without doubt would be to change the brake fluid if you are planning going on track.....

[doodlebug]

I was thinking along the lines of selling up and buying a GTR.

It's a big fat 2 tonne cruiser. It's only ever going to wallow around a track.

[sonny]

The first mod without doubt would be to change the brake fluid if you are planning going on track.....

+1 esp to a racing fluid.

Nige and DK have tracked there C6s and would be the best ppl to comment.

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I was thinking along the lines of selling up and buying a GTR.

It's a big fat 2 tonne cruiser. It's only ever going to wallow around a track.

Tbh gtr isn't much better. It's stonking for 1 maybe 2 laps but then physics kicks in and needs to cool down.
Gearbox temp will put the car in limp mode for a bit - pretty frustrating.

If you are looking for a track car then unless you are looking at GP tracks like Silverstone that are pure power based, then lightweight is the way to go.
You can stay out much longer and the running costs are reasonable.

[Ian_C]

Something like a 2-11....

[weedub]

Maybe these might help...

Official: Bilstein B16 Coilover Upgrade for Audi RS6
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Something like a 2-11....

- yes that does it.
But I've found more often than not that a well sorted lighter car is more fun and cheaper to track than somthing heavier and faster.
TBH I find the Elise sport 190 more "fun" on track as it's a little more forgiving . The 211 is bonkers in terms of performance but I'm wrecked after a day in it.

[Ian_C]

Something like a 2-11....

- yes that does it.
But I've found more often than not that a well sorted lighter car is more fun and cheaper to track than somthing heavier and faster.
TBH I find the Elise sport 190 more "fun" on track as it's a little more forgiving . The 211 is bonkers in terms of performance but I'm wrecked after a day in it.

The VHPD k series S2? Very nice, quite rare and excellent residuals as a result

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Yup. Slower, less reliable but Jeez alot of personality (and as all pulp fiction fans will tell you - personality goes a long way).

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Yup. Slower, less reliable but Jeez alot of personality (and as all pulp fiction fans will tell you - personality goes a long way).

YEAH BUT THAT'D HAVE TO BE ONE CHARIN' MOFUCKEN PIG...

[TBl]

After tracking my RS6 a few times, I realized the most fun I have is on the motorway to and from the track . It's just too heavy, understeery and suspension does not inspire confidence. But if you want to track it: change brake fluid to sth more temperature resistant and turn esp off (as it uses brakes on exit or if you overdo). Forget other mods and save money instead to buy sth fun (I've chosen a radical - can't wait to have it delivered)

Regards
Tomek

[W8PMC]

I was thinking along the lines of selling up and buying a GTR.

It's a big fat 2 tonne cruiser. It's only ever going to wallow around a track.

Tbh gtr isn't much better. It's stonking for 1 maybe 2 laps but then physics kicks in and needs to cool down.
Gearbox temp will put the car in limp mode for a bit - pretty frustrating.

If you are looking for a track car then unless you are looking at GP tracks like Silverstone that are pure power based, then lightweight is the way to go.
You can stay out much longer and the running costs are reasonable.

It'll stay out for a-lot longer than that & unless you were caning it to within an inch of it's life lap after lap, you'd be tired & need to refuel before the gearbox temps became a concern. On the Silverstone F1 i could easily get 10-12 laps at 95% full pace before needing a cool down. Cadwell i only once needed to cool the Gearbox down, but that's a far more twisty track so lots of gear changes, Oulton the same as Cadwell, so at least 12-15 laps before the gearbox temps needed addressing.

Bit of a myth this GT-R gearbox issue, agreed the gearbox will get up to temp on track when pushing hard & you have to be careful once it reaches over 115, however a cool down lap & 20min break is all that's required & as above, you'll be physically tired & need fuel before then anyway. Never heard of a car going into limp mode due to Gearbox temps, however most owners know to stay South of 120 degrees so i've no idea what would happen if you kept going past that temp.

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Canning to an inch of its life is what I do with cars at the track

Brakes are the issue at Silverstone nor than anything else. Lots of places for things to cool down.

At Oulton the one I had borrowed started to struggle. Probably partly me as I could have used the low down torque more but used to high reving cars so possibly being a bit frantic on the gears.

sounding like a grumpy old fart now but don't like radicals either
Unless you are used to driving seriously aero packaged cars (and I wasn't when I first tried it) then it's pretty intimidating stuff having to reprogram what you think is possible.
on a mixed Trackday even when you are <beep> scare of the bloody thing you are probably twice as quick as everything else which results in many frustrating blue flag incidents.
The it broke. Was fixed. And then broke again.