Can't wait for Ian to finish baking my XP10 front pads!

[Mr V10]

That was just normal sticking to speed limits driving, if I hypermilled, I could get it to 70+ easy. I'm not proud of what I'm typing. Let's change the subject before the others get here, back to pads preferably.

[Mr Footlong]

Yes. Less batty, more brakey.

[bilko1]

Nice seat Footers but i don't think it will look right in the 6

[Ceveman73]

On the other side of the fence, as Foot rightly stated, I have had quite a different experience with my XP10s...

Mine have been excellent, dusty yes, and a bit squealy at low speeds, but nothing major and the noise disappears once they've got some heat in them. I've not experienced the 'grinding' that Foot describes, at any speeds, and they have given me nothing but confidence in conjunction with high temp Brembo brake fluid. As Foot says, these are jaw droppingly good, and improve the braking performance of the standard caliper /disc setup beyond expectations.

Foot's bad experience I can only put down to either a dodgy set of pads, or some sort of disc damage/imperfection, which is more apparent with the aggressive XP10 compound.

If you can't stretch to upgraded calipers/discs, then I would recommend the XP10 if you find the standard setup doesn't give you the braking confidence you need when pushing on, as long as you don't mind a bit of dust, and squealing at low speeds.

Overall the pros far outweigh the cons in my experience. As our Graham says on Blinda Data, "The choice... is yours!"

Mart.

[Mr Footlong]

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It hasn't been a bad experience with them, more of a mixed one but as the noise/grinding became more pronounced as time went by, I had to call it a day. The discs were new OE drilled ones fitted only 1500 miles before so I don't think that was the issue and these got noisier as the heat built up.

There is nothing wrong with the performance of them whatsoever and I have utter confidence in that so I am going to be putting them up for sale for people that want cracking pads for Track Days.

I went out this morning for a Warp Factor 10 to standstill traffic test run and as expected, I was having to brake soooo much earlier to make sure that I didn't get acquainted with a random colon or two.

[Shoppinit]

At least you will have been able to try a variety of different pads on the car. All interesting stuff.

[Mr Footlong]

I am eternally grateful for getting the £23 Pagids back on loan darling, but I am simply amazed that they are classified as acceptable braking performance levels on these cars. Perhaps they thought that the target market for the RS6 were women who would obviously be driving around in heels and wouldn't be planting the anchors all about the place?

[Mr V10]

Well I'm popping my used genuine Audi pads back on again soon as my brake upgrade could take another week until it is done, possibly two/three if I wait for Ian's C6 Carbotech pads. If you don't want too much for the Carbotechs, I'll buy 'um off you, just to give a third opinion and to see if it were your calipers causing the problems. I'll only use them for a week or so though hence why I can't offer a lot, but I'll chuck in some opinions for free. It's your call.

[thetyrant]

Just a thought, if you wanted to post me the XP10 back i could give them a once over check all is ok then skim back level and make them ready for using again ?

Ian

[Mr Footlong]

Ian, thanks for the offer and I think that it may well be worth you having a look at these so you can be 100% happy that it is some other factor in my setup like the the calipers etc. One thing I have noticed is that on both calipers, 1 side of the pads have worn noticably more than the other side. I suspect that the disc side with higher wear rate was the outer disc sides but I didn't see this when yanking them so I cannot be certain. If insufficient average pressure was being placed on the insides of the discs by the pistons, the inside pads may not have been getting cleaned properly.

I also noticed but the inside holes on the discs were noticeably more clogged than the outer holes but due to the pesky disc guards they are almost impossible to clean in situ, which could I suppose be accounting for the grinding as they clog up, possibly due to the guards making it far harder to shed the braking material. The more that I think about it, the more I reckon I am on to something and also am thinking that the Disc guards need to die a horrible death.

[Ceveman73]

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"...Blinda Data!" wasn't a typo Foot, that's how 'Our Graham' used to announce the show. It was an attempt at humour... Apology accepted

Mart.

[Mr Footlong]

Does "kiss my black ass" count as an apology?

If you had linked to a sound clip of him then it would have been acceptable but as it stands, you clearly fail sir.

[thetyrant]

Ian, thanks for the offer and I think that it may well be worth you having a look at these so you can be 100% happy that it is some other factor in my setup like the the calipers etc. One thing I have noticed is that on both calipers, 1 side of the pads have worn noticably more than the other side. I suspect that the disc side with higher wear rate was the outer disc sides but I didn't see this when yanking them so I cannot be certain. If insufficient average pressure was being placed on the insides of the discs by the pistons, the inside pads may not have been getting cleaned properly.

I also noticed but the inside holes on the discs were noticeably more clogged than the outer holes but due to the pesky disc guards they are almost impossible to clean in situ, which could I suppose be accounting for the grinding as they clog up, possibly due to the guards making it far harder to shed the braking material. The more that I think about it, the more I reckon I am on to something and also am thinking that the Disc guards need to die a horrible death.

Sounds like possibly calipers/pads were binding sligthly on inner side giving the uneven wear, if so then this will of no doubt contributed to the noise and ive not seen a properly working setup that wont quieten down and stay quiet for awhile after a good hard thrash it does point towards it being a possbile cause for your issues. Saying that some setup do wear more on inner or outer just be design so might be nothing.

If you send them back i can check pads for you no problem.

Cheers
Ian

[Ceveman73]

Does "kiss my black ass" count as an apology?

If you had linked to a sound clip of him then it would have been acceptable but as it stands, you clearly fail sir.

Blimey, how much spare time do you think I have whilst at work!? If accepting your apology requires me to press my pursed lips against your colourful derrière, then I politely decline your kind offer of an apology...

[Ceveman73]

PS @ Foot - An update from our mate David would do instead...