Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

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Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by Mr Footlong » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:35 pm

Afternoon ladies

Been very quiet over the last few weeks due to a massive end of year workload, usual hmrc admin <beep> and just got back last night from a short break in Istanbul, which was utterly amazing. I don;t think anything is wrong with my baby (which I will Vagcom at some point just to check) but I think that despite putting on only 300 or so miles since all the MRC upgrades, I think I have got used to the power and crave more...........

Might be a silly question but just in case, when the temps outside are very low (well, lower than what the hugely optimistic DIS tells me it is), as in around 0c etc, does the car restrict the power a bit for safety? Worth asking :)

Will have the car up to Doug & the guys shortly for the final alignment of bits now that they should have all bedded in and thinking about the next set of upgrades that I promised myself I would wait until summer. I find myself going exactly the same way that I want with modding my imps, darling is going to love me.

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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by bilko1 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:51 pm

As you are already stage 2 you better get hmrc to give you a large rebate to go further.
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by Mr Footlong » Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:57 pm

I have this niggling feeling in my noggin that I won't be happy until I do my damndest to get her to 600 but I am hoping reality will kick in and give me a slap.
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by bilko1 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:07 pm

Mr Footlong wrote:I have this niggling feeling in my noggin that I won't be happy until I do my damndest to get her to 600 but I am hoping reality will kick in and give me a slap.
Nah, compression lowering head gaskets, Loba cams and turbos and meth injection you know you want to :biggrin3:
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by chunky79 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:09 pm

Your car should actually feel a little quicker in the cold mate due to the air being more dense
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by Daveperc » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:34 pm

Must admit I have wondered about Water Injection a few times - good article at Audiworld http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng80a.shtml

I had it on a SAAB 99 2Dr Turbo years ago and it allowed me to just about double the boost pressure - only issue with that system was the lag in the system, but with modern controllers should be no problem.

I think Doug may have done a few.....

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Post by bam_bam » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:44 pm

Mr Footlong wrote:I have this niggling feeling in my noggin that I won't be happy until I do my damndest to get her to 600 but I am hoping reality will kick in and give me a slap.
I could give you a nice hard slap, probably a lot harder than any reality slap too, seeing as it'd be administered by a man who's got the mods to knock on the door of 600. If I was in your position, I'd do everything I could to build a better gearbox before considering any more power. I think you've only got once chance to do it too, not many people have the appetite to pull the engine and rebuild the 'box a second time.
Show me a C5 RS with 600bhp and a standard 'box, and I'll show you a 550bhp C5 RS just as quick with a 'box made of granite and silly amounts of torque... I know which one I'd rather.

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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by HYFR » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:09 pm

In the land of the RS6, the man with a Audi Warranty is Emperor

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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by bam_bam » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:21 pm

aka_dk wrote:In the land of the RS6, the man with a Audi Warranty is Emperor

:FIREdevil:
...and more or less totally standard. Yes Emperor, please do come in but you must leave those compression lowering gaskets and hybrids at the door.
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by marv8 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:29 am

Mine is pretty much unmolested (the car) and I have been thinking she feels slow of late. Obviously this is just getting used to the power as you have Nick (seems you have a bit more quickly though).
What did please me however was on the way home from a meeting on fri I ended up behind a new gtr on the motorway, we were in traffic but the outside lane opened up and we both have it the beans. Now I know he was flat out when he dropped a couple of cogs, his car squatted down and gave the telltale puffs of smoke. We went from 70 to double that and a bit - silly I know - but there was nothing in in at all.
Given the price, age and size I think that's pretty good going! The old girl still has a bit to offer and felt so solid even at very naughty speeds.

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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by Mr V10 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:55 am

I went in Supersi's B5 RS4, it made my car feel like a 1.0 Ford Ka, they are ridiculously fast, and he dyno'd at 1 BHP less then me. I've never experienced acceleration like it and my mate that works at Jag who came along for the ride in the RS too had a brand new XFR 500 something brake and said the exact same thing, and that the B5 would murder it. I don't think I'd ever get used to the speed of a B5, but I'm used to the power in the RS6 now, getting bored already to be honest. Need more noise/power/handling me thinks.
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by chunky79 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:12 am

Our cars might not 'feel' fast but they bloody are. The problem is they are so big and heavy and also auto that they hide the speed very well. When I went to Scotland the sister in law in the back who hates fast speeds couldn't believe that we had got into 3 figures.
I'm not saying the b5 rs4 isn't fast amar but my mates vxr feels stupid fast but wouldn't touch the 6. Manuals will always feel fast as a passenger
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by Mr Footlong » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:26 am

bam_bam wrote:
Mr Footlong wrote:I have this niggling feeling in my noggin that I won't be happy until I do my damndest to get her to 600 but I am hoping reality will kick in and give me a slap.
I could give you a nice hard slap, probably a lot harder than any reality slap too, seeing as it'd be administered by a man who's got the mods to knock on the door of 600. If I was in your position, I'd do everything I could to build a better gearbox before considering any more power. I think you've only got once chance to do it too, not many people have the appetite to pull the engine and rebuild the 'box a second time.
Show me a C5 RS with 600bhp and a standard 'box, and I'll show you a 550bhp C5 RS just as quick with a 'box made of granite and silly amounts of torque... I know which one I'd rather.

In the land of the RS6, the man with a bombproof gearbox is king.
Darling, while I was all wet behind the ears when I first came in to buying this car, I have picked up a thing or two from these forums and an uprated Gearbox/TC would be an absolute essential when I look to doing all of this. I still don't fully trust my current gearbox at all so I am waiting for that to go pop at any point down the road and will sort it then unless it last to mod time first.

Reminder appreciated though :)
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23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung

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"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by Mr Footlong » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:28 am

chunky79 wrote:Your car should actually feel a little quicker in the cold mate due to the air being more dense
I fully agree but I have also been in 1 or 2 cars in the past where we believed that due to the sub zero temps the ecu was possibly throttling back the car a bit in an effort to stop us from killing ourselves :). I thought it was worth asking if these cars possibly did the same things.
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23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung

Gone:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
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Re: Oh pants, car already feeling slower......

Post by Mr Footlong » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:35 am

marv8 wrote:Mine is pretty much unmolested (the car) and I have been thinking she feels slow of late. Obviously this is just getting used to the power as you have Nick (seems you have a bit more quickly though).
What did please me however was on the way home from a meeting on fri I ended up behind a new gtr on the motorway, we were in traffic but the outside lane opened up and we both have it the beans. Now I know he was flat out when he dropped a couple of cogs, his car squatted down and gave the telltale puffs of smoke. We went from 70 to double that and a bit - silly I know - but there was nothing in in at all.
Given the price, age and size I think that's pretty good going! The old girl still has a bit to offer and felt so solid even at very naughty speeds.
I would check things over with your girl but that could well be a sign of impending Moditis ;). I do get used to power upgrades very quickly based on my previous cars so I am thinking it must just be that. I have no flaming self control though and if I know that there are still upgrades that can be done I want to just get them all done. Once it is finished and there are realistically no more off the shelf or fairly straightforwards upgrades that can be carried out, I know there is nothing more I can do and I am either happy then or sell the car and get something faster. Idiotit I know but it's almost a bit of a vice/addiction for me.

The Jag was the only hiccup as there was fairly little that you could mod in comparison to these/my previous cars and what there was didn't justify what the end result would be.

Really hoping I can hold off as I am supposed to be shacking up with darling this year. The funniest thing is that I am lucky if I do about 50 miles a week driving most of the time yet I can't help wanting an absolute beast....
Current:

23' C8 RS6 Vorsprung - 23' RS E-Tron GT Carbon Vorsprung

Gone:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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