Why you should be wary of Pagids

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Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Shoppinit » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:59 pm

This is what kills your disks. Another knobbly bit, but hidden inside the pad material this time. There are about 6 per pads and they groove the disk even though there is at least 8mm of pad left. If you are still running the OEM Pagids, then you need to keep an eye on your disks.

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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by bam_bam » Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:02 pm

Why do that? Is this an issue on the C6 RS OEM pads too?
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Shoppinit » Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:04 pm

I haven't heard anything about it. The C6 pads are Brembo, not Pagid though so hopefully Brembo have got more sense.
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Mr Footlong » Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:51 pm

Ben, you are killing me here................ I have all my new discs sitting here for me to poss fit on Saturday and I have a set of Pagid pads that did approx 100 miles before I won them for a whopping £23 on Ebay! On top of every other part of that car that is financially deep filling my bunghole currently, I not have to be cautious of that? I knew about the 6 metal studs in the pads but thought they were far deeper in to the pads than that! There is a pic here from the Yellow Dog Racing brake change page that I have attached - http://www.yellowdogracing.com/Audibrakes.htm

"The old rotors. You can see where the brass brads in the brake pads have marked the rotors." - Erm, yep!
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by bakustax » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:00 pm

I'm hazarding a guess here Mr Footlong...but...I reckon visits to this site have probably aged you 10 years in the last month!!...What the fu*k were you thinking when bidding on the Pagids...with a supposed 100miles on them...dude £23 pads??

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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Mr Footlong » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:06 pm

bakustax wrote:I'm hazarding a guess here Mr Footlong...but...I reckon visits to this site have probably aged you 10 years in the last month!!...What the fu*k were you thinking when bidding on the Pagids...with a supposed 100miles on them...dude £23 pads??
Before flaming me darling , they really are in very, very good nick, barely had anything taken off them whatsoever and look immaculate. This was when I was going to stick with the fairly shot sold front discs on there before I went all out on new discs all round. I put in a snipe bid on them for a laugh and got them. They are the proper pagid pads so what's the problem with a cheeky bid? I read up on the Pagids as in how they performed and they sounded right for me.

As for aging me, while I am well used to pouring thousands after thousands in to my cars to make them perfect or lots faster, this 'German Quality Engineering' really has me puzzled. No idea why I wanted an RS6 after watching Audi after Audi pack up on my parents with 1 stupid problem after another but as a man you can't help what you lust after and I have always wanted to make babies with the RS6. Didn't realise it would be the one doing all the humping! You can slate Jap crap but they are far more bulletproof in my experience and my Jag was sublime mechanically compared to these rolling mental breakdowns :D.

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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Rupert » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:07 pm

Just received another set of OEM pagids yesterday. The first set delaminated. :(
£245. :(

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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by bakustax » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:15 pm

Mr Footlong wrote:
bakustax wrote:I'm hazarding a guess here Mr Footlong...but...I reckon visits to this site have probably aged you 10 years in the last month!!...What the fu*k were you thinking when bidding on the Pagids...with a supposed 100miles on them...dude £23 pads??
Before flaming me darling , they really are in very, very good nick, barely had anything taken off them whatsoever and look immaculate. I put in a snipe bid on them for a laugh and got them. They are the proper pagid pads so what's the problem? Read up on the Pagids as in how they performed and they sounded right for me.
Your a great addition to the site!!....I bought Mintex for mine...£56 or there about...no probs with them...I think it's the idea of buying new discs all round new pads for the rears and chancing it with used pads on the front...I spend half my life in Baku and half in Aberdeen and am an Aberdonian mean bastard...but not even I would penny pinch it and risk fu*king the discs...how's your pulse Chief??

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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Mr Footlong » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:27 pm

I edited the original post to say that I took the gamble on them before I decided to get brand new discs all round BUT, they are in such good nick that I was seriously contemplating trying them out. ;) I know many tight scots too mate :D
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"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by bakustax » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:46 pm

I too come from the jap world of performance motors... 200SX 's and Supras...and like you thought getting into a super build quality Tutonic super car was a safe bet...Aye aye aye...how wrong was I...one thing about the jap cars is the basics never go wrong it's the upgrades that cost the cash...with these mothers keeping them running as factory is like a second morgage...it's still the best car I've owned though....my missus would probably disagree... :audibash:
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Mr Footlong » Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:49 pm

I hate you all and these forum seeds of doubt lol..... Looking in to what I can get that will do the job and won't have the stud problems of the Pagids. Not up for forking out on the XP10 pads just yet though with the MRC costs looming...

Anyway, back on topic. Pagid pad studs = scary <beep> people ;) - Going to read up more in the Mintex ones but always steered away from them due to their 'budget' association.
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"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Shoppinit » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:50 pm

I think the pagids are quite good. Just sell them on eBay when you've done a few thousand miles. Got £23 for my last set. Sucka!
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by bilko1 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:28 am

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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by chunky79 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:08 am

Kick a man while he's down Ben :jump_clap: :jump:
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Re: Why you should be wary of Pagids

Post by Mr Footlong » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:54 am

I am normally all for humour but not getting what the problem is. My discs are shot all round by my standards but still ok for now. The front pads are shot and I didn't see the point in getting expensive pads for shot discs when I would just be changing the discs shortly down the line. Took a cheeky snipe bid on some pagids with sod all miles on them as the guy didn't like the feel he got from them.

They turned up and other than a very light touch of brake dust on them, they look brand new. Since then I blew a load of cash on all new discs all round but was still considering using these when I fit them as they are still near as damnit brand new and sitting in a box currently. It's not called being cheap, it called a locigal OPTION ;).

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Gone:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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