JHM Lightweight flywheel.

[S4Player]

Contact noodles s4 on here for a group buy on anything that's from over the pond. He's just started bringing everything over a group of b5 boys ordered loads of 034 stuff via him all hassle free and on time

[supersi]

I could do a group buy on our LOBA B7 clutch kits if of any interest ?

http://loba-motorsport.de/en/products/a ... ingle-disc


LOBA Flywheel made from billet chrome moly steel, Material Strong and durable
Our flywheel is 7kg (15.5 lbs)

Following parts to our clutch kit:
- Sachs Performance pressure plate
- Sachs Performance clutch disc organic or sintered depending on Nm you want to handle
- LOBA steel Flywheel made of chromoly steel
- Needle bearing
- Screws for pressure plate

LOBA kits fit as OEM

[sonny]

If you guys are buying stuff from JHM we may be better doing it in one bulk order to save on shipping costs since Steve and I live fairly close to each other. Even sending the stuff on to you in the UK after arrival on these shores sonny would be cheaper than o/s shipping. I may go for front and rear discs. We may also be able to get a slight discount from JHM on a bulk order too; I've tried in the past for myself and they weren't keen hence why I have never gone for their stuff.

Im not working overseas any more so don't have an APO address for free import duty.

However I think its worth looking at a UK distributor like above.

Im still not decided on what product to go for yet.

[SKG_C63AMG]

..and DS2500 pads?

who supplied ur pads for u Sonny? ive got yellow stuff pads in the front which seem good

[sonny]

..and DS2500 pads?

who supplied ur pads for u Sonny? ive got yellow stuff pads in the front which seem good

They wont last long mate, mine crumbled and fell apart after 5 months inc 4 track days. However I suppose that is not bad really.

I get mine from Camskills. You can only get the fronts and they done have wear sensors.

[RS4VR]

guys.. Check out quattroworld.com rs4 forum.. Apparently folks have had problems with the flywheels.

Also google "jhm sucks"

I havent deakt with them, but im pretty leery to do so after reading a bit.

[RS4POWER]

grabs popcorn.

[Billy]

I've got the JHM LWFW + clutch sonny. You do get quite a bit of chatter at low revs for the first few hundred miles while running it in.

But after it's run in it's fine unless you put it in a high gear with low revs.

Had it for over a year now and no issues at all.

[sonny]

I've got the JHM LWFW + clutch sonny. You do get quite a bit of chatter at low revs for the first few hundred miles while running it in.

But after it's run in it's fine unless you put it in a high gear with low revs.

Had it for over a year now and no issues at all.

Did you notice any real gains in acceleration/performance

guys.. Check out quattroworld.com rs4 forum.. Apparently folks have had problems with the flywheels.

Also google "jhm sucks"

I havent deakt with them, but im pretty leery to do so after reading a bit.

?

Thanks will check it out, (do you have a link?).

[P_G]

Best to google sonny if you don't tweet. Sounds like a fairly embittered person who had poor service from them starting up a website and citing a handful of cases. Not discrediting those cases at al but I gather then have probably sold a lot more then those cited who have had problems.

Bit like Audi then....

[wellzieRS4]

just a thought there but not sure how the 380mm discs would go with ur 18" track wheels Sonny, they look quite close with the 19" wheels on? will go nice with my 20" wheels though lol

I did look at that and I think they will be fine.

I looked at the Alcon and stoptech set up, but I think the OEM callipers are fantastic, just the discs that need improving.

I agree there the OEM callipers are fine 8 pots are capable of everything just need better discs, im gettine upgraded brake lines and fluid soon so will be good to do discs at the same time, castle combe srs session did my discs front and rear the world of good cleaned them up a treat but still want bigger discs

i had new discs and pads fitted earlier in the year Ive done about 2000 miles on them but they have started to vibrate at about 80 mph will giving them a good roasting sort them out do you think

[Billy]

I've got the JHM LWFW + clutch sonny. You do get quite a bit of chatter at low revs for the first few hundred miles while running it in.

But after it's run in it's fine unless you put it in a high gear with low revs.

Had it for over a year now and no issues at all.

Did you notice any real gains in acceleration/performance

The revs go up and down a bit quicker, and when I first had a LWFW installed the acceleration in the lower gears did feel faster.

But thats just going on my butt dyno mate lol.

[sonny]

The butt dyno is only dyno in the world that does not lie.

[sakimano]

guys.. Check out quattroworld.com rs4 forum.. Apparently folks have had problems with the flywheels.

Also google "jhm sucks"

I havent deakt with them, but im pretty leery to do so after reading a bit.

let's get the facts out there. First off I'm a jhm customer, and like the JHM guys. I hate seeing them get undeserved bad press, so maybe I can share some of what I've seen as a customer and an avid forum reader who has seen all of these stories over the past 5 years.

EVERY clutch/flywheel fails eventually. EVERY aftermarket kit has had premature failures for various reasons (usually abuse or installer error).

The JHM kits are on hundreds of cars, and I've seen about 5 fail. Here are 5 of them (2x for beluga and 2x for ngng)

a customer in southern california on audizine - he complained his engagement point was too low and it wasn't working. JHM spoke to him and his installer on the phone. When they asked the installers if they had used the supplied hardware and followed the supplied instructions, the installer got gruff with lots of 'I know what I'm doing,..I work on Porsches' etc. etc. Didn't answer the question though...somewhat of an admission that they didn't. The client drove to JHM and JHM took apart his car right in front of him. They showed him that the installer hadn't used the supplied hardware, hadn't loctited the bolts, and hadn't torqued the bolts properly causing his problems. They redid the install, and then the client called his shop to confront them with the facts. His shop admitted their error, and agreed to compensate him for his trip to northern california.

beluga/subliminal image - he had the exact same symptoms as the customer above. He started a thread about it, and JHM stepped in to make an offer for him to come to their shop, they'll take it apart, and see what caused the failure. If it was their parts, they offered a free replacement and re-installation at their cost. He turned that down, and did the tear down himself. He admitted on the thread that it was indeed installer error (same old situation with hardware and torque specs not being followed). Rather than have JHM re-install it, he re-installed it himself. That is the clutch that has recently failed on quattroworld. He is friends with ngng, the one who started the thread this week, linked above. I am not sure but lots of the 'sheared bolts' and 'backed out bolts' claims there don't add up. If hundreds of people don't have this problem...and a user decides to install it on his own and has a problem like this...doesn't it make you wonder if maybe there's more to the story? I mean nobody has sheared JHM clutch/flywheel bolts BUT this guy.

ngng - Achtuning installed his JHM clutch flywheel without following the instructions, and used the stock hardware rather than the supplied hardware. When ngng denied this, someone found photos on his self-aggrandizing webpage that clearly showed the JHM hardware ON HIS DESK in his condo...even though the clutch was already on his car. ngng had JHM do tons of work to fix on his disaster of an RS4 conversion (b6 S4 with an RS4 costume and oft failing VF Engineering supercharger on it). One of those visits they told him his clutch was improperly installed (engagement point was super low). He was in a rush and couldn't leave it there another day for them to fix it, so he took the car. It failed at a track day a short while later, leading to a barrage of anti-jhm threads on various forums. They made their usual offer to him that the people who have bad installs get...and he took it. They re-installed it, and all was well. Unfortunately it failed again at some point. How? ABUSE! Check the vid below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iaADBPDYHA

Lots of these guys beat the <beep> out their cars. They pay thousands for brake pads and tires after track days...I don't understand why they think they can thrash a clutch and be surprised when it fails (if it wasn't install error). Launching from 6500 RPM is absolutely absurd. These are AWD cars....not RWD muscle cars trying to do a smoke-show. quattro vs. clutch with a clutch drop like that = victory for quattro and a broken clutch. Everyone with common sense knows this. Not ngng.


p.s. this is interesting...NGNG IS AN ADMITTED PAID SPOKESMAN FOR VF ENGINEERING, JHM's competitor.

[sonny]

Sorry but im still laughing at that video. Some very good valid point. Hence why I posted this thread. Good to hear stories from both side of the fence.