Gaining revs when changing gears.

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Gaining revs when changing gears.

Post by mavada » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:09 pm

When the gearbox changes gears the revs are slightly gaining (app. 500 rpm, from 1500 to 2000 rpm) without really gain speed... is it normal? Or shouldnt that occur when changing gears? When i slightly accelerate it doesnt gain revs without gaining speed...

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Post by JCviggen » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:31 pm

Well its not a particularly good sign, does it do this all the time? Clutch pack may be slipping. Does it happen in all the gears?

Mine very occasionally has rpms rising slightly during a shift (only about 200 though) but only during very light loads and usually 4 to 5.

But mine is definitely on the way out already and has the lockup clutch fault.
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Post by bilko1 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:34 pm

Get VCDS on it and cross your fingers.
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Post by mavada » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:18 pm

what is the lockup clutch fault? how do i recognize that? vagcom doesnt show any faults... or should i use vagcom while driving instead of only the ignition on...???

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Post by bilko1 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:14 pm

Log the torque convertor that is where the lock up clutch is but controlled by solenoids in the gearbox valve block afaik. Theres a few threads with these logs do a search so you know which blocks to measure.
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Post by amanda1 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:08 pm

mavada wrote:When the gearbox changes gears the revs are slightly gaining (app. 500 rpm, from 1500 to 2000 rpm) without really gain speed... is it normal? Or shouldnt that occur when changing gears? When i slightly accelerate it doesnt gain revs without gaining speed...
Mine does it ..............torque converter is on the way out :roll:

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Post by bilko1 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:49 am

amanda1 wrote:
mavada wrote:When the gearbox changes gears the revs are slightly gaining (app. 500 rpm, from 1500 to 2000 rpm) without really gain speed... is it normal? Or shouldnt that occur when changing gears? When i slightly accelerate it doesnt gain revs without gaining speed...
Mine does it ..............torque converter is on the way out :roll:
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Re: Gaining revs when changing gears.

Post by amanda1 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:07 am

bilko1 wrote:
amanda1 wrote:
mavada wrote:When the gearbox changes gears the revs are slightly gaining (app. 500 rpm, from 1500 to 2000 rpm) without really gain speed... is it normal? Or shouldnt that occur when changing gears? When i slightly accelerate it doesnt gain revs without gaining speed...
Mine does it ..............torque converter is on the way out :roll:
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Post by paulcrake » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:46 am

Vagcom will not show if the clutches are slipping unless you have a total failure of the gear. It sounds more like clutch wear than converter because it happens when changing gear. It is not normal.

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Post by mavada » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:41 pm

When it is the clutch, how to repair? Expensive? Whole transmission dismantle?

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Post by Shoppinit » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:36 pm

If your body is the gearbox, your torque converter is your appendix.

It normally works away, doing its thing without any fuss. But now it's starting to swell. You are starting to feel the pain.

If you get treated quick enough then you might be OK; You can get the dying appendix out and put it a new one in, hopefully with no ill effects (I'm stretching the metafor a bit, I realise).

If it's too late then it has exploded and is merrily spewing pus around your body (the gearbox) which will soon cause peritonitis and then sepsis, at which point you will propbably die and need a new gearbox.

Of course, invasive surgery is to be avoided as much as possible, so if you're going to be opened up, might as well have a new appendix and a new geabox at the same time. IF the gearbox dies after the appendix has been changed, then you'll have to have surgery all over again.

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Post by paulcrake » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:41 pm

Well put Shoppinit...
Yes, if anything fails in the box then it is best to replace all, clutch packs, bearings, seals, valve body and the appendix. 25hrs plus of surgery is a lot and is best done only once..
Speak with Martin from unit20, his hourly rates are cheaper than going private (audi) and he has 2 options on box replacement I believe, new and reconditioned.

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